Driving rant

[snowdog]

Even if you're sat on the 155MPH limiter, if you're not overtaking something, stay in the left most lane. Why is this so hard?

Because at 155mph, you want some space on both sides if something goes wrong...

Sorry I understand the hate against people being on the most inside lanes blocking you from overtaking them, but I do not understand the hate against middle lane ''morons'' if the inside lane is free (I'm talking about nighttime situations, during daytime, the rule makes sense, on an empty motorway it doesn't)...

picture the scene... you are in the left lane, approaching a car in the middle lane and it would easier to undertake than it would to move across 3 lanes of traffic, only to move back across 3 lanes after the overtake - all because the numpty can see a slow moving caravan on the horizon. a textbook middle lane moron!

Oh no, because moving 3 lanes is so hard, it's not slowing you down is it ? Take a chill pill... People who slow you down are annoying, people who don't, well, who cares?

 

[Will Gill]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubersonic
I regularly drive between North Wales and London and sit in the middle lane most of the way unless the is nothing in the left lane or I need to overtake because thats what I was taught, the left lane is usually full of caravans/trucks/old people/etc that cant do 70 so snaking in between the left/middle lane overtaking every 10 seconds would be silly.

nothing wrong there...

my misquote would have looked like this

And FYI its considered good practice to stay in the middle lane these days

or

I regularly drive between North Wales and London and sit in the middle lane most of the way

Speeding is a Criminal offence, what do we call people who commit criminal offences?, I had to look into this last year as while it's technically a criminal offence it doesn't get recorded as such on the Police National Computer and does not constitute a criminal record however you are required to disclose speeding offences when applying for a MoD security clearance.

mod clearance is enhanced disclosure, and from my reasonably extensive experience it makes no odds how many non CRB related points you have, I've been SC cleared, CTC cleared and a whole heap of other red tape realted junk - a criminal conviction would affect these, oddly enough speeding et al doesnt. so whilst its a criminal offence after being processed you walk away without a criminal record, what does that make you?

 

[DM]

See when other drivers upset you as much as they do you Ubersonic, and it all just gets too much.

Catch a ****ing bus.

 

[ubersonic]

my misquote would have looked like this

and FYI its considered good practice to stay in the middle lane these days

No offence to you and all the other keyboard heroes but I will continue to drive the way my driving instructor, the fire officer teaching the pass plus course and the police officer teaching the advanced driving course all taught me as I believe they knew what they were talking about (well apart from when the instructor said to give way to traffic from the right at a roundabout, but they were old and didn't know the rule had changed).

 

[DiscoDave]

I used to drive on a motorway for a previous job during peak times, at which time the first line was heavily occupied by lorry drivers/vans/other cars doing 55 or so, so I stayed in the second lane doing 70. There were no sufficient gaps to move back into the first lane. Didn't see a problem with that as there was always (at least) 1 other lane for faster drivers to overtake me, consequently I never really encountered any agressive/annoyed/frustrated drivers, they just overtook me normally and continued on.

Binary answers about if driving in the middle lane is right or wrong is a bit harsh, entirely depends on the road, time, conditions, number of cars etc.

 

[Biohazard]

I agree with groovy disco dave

 

[Will Gill]

No offence to you and all the other keyboard heroes but I will continue to drive the way my driving instructor, the fire officer teaching the pass plus course and the police officer teaching the advanced driving course all taught me as I believe they knew what they were talking about (well apart from when the instructor said to give way to traffic from the right at a roundabout, but they were old and didn't know the rule had changed).

wtf?

you think they were wrong for telling you to give way to traffic from the right on a roundabout?

given this I'm not surprised you think dedicated middle lane driving is ok

what does a red traffic light mean? go?

 

[Morba]

Because at 155mph, you want some space on both sides if something goes wrong...

Umm, inc the hard shoulder there are 4 lanes, so the left lane gives as much room as the 'middle' lane.
So that argument is pointless

 

[ubersonic]

wtf?

you think they were wrong for telling you to give way to traffic from the right on a roundabout?

given this I'm not surprised you think dedicated middle lane driving is ok

what does a red traffic light mean? go?

Very funny, no I know they were wrong, you see "Give way to traffic from the left" changed a few years ago to "give way to traffic on the roundabout" the Instructor didn't know that at the time

Basically the current wording just clarifies that whoever is in "the zone" first has priority I.E if some nutter comes flying round a roundabout at 2000mph and hits somebody who was pulling out because the zone was clear at the time then the accident is his fault even though he was coming from the right as he should have slowed down instead of driving into them.

 

[whitecrook]

Whitecrook, your incompetence lies in the fact that you seek no further evidence of your thoughts before opening your mouth.

Excuse me? I think you have me confused.

 

[Scania]

So when the motorway is busy the inside lane has " the odd lorry"

Not on the motorways i go on...

Odd lorry drivers more like - Ahem....

I believe they knew what they were talking about (well apart from when the instructor said to give way to traffic from the right at a roundabout, but they were old and didn't know the rule had changed).

Not sure about any rule change, but giving way to traffic from the right at a roundabout seems - to my mind anyway - as good practice.....

 

[Disco Boy]

Not sure about any rule change, but giving way to traffic from the right at a roundabout seems - to my mind anyway - as good practice.....

He's referring to the rule which states that one gives way to traffic already on a roundabout. i.e. if you are on a roundabout before someone who is coming from your right then you have right of way, they have to slow for you.

This doesn't detract from the fact that ubersonic seems to be admitting to being a middle-lane moron with no common sense or courtesy.

 

[Scania]

He's referring to the rule which states that one gives way to traffic already on a roundabout. i.e. if you are on a roundabout before someone who is coming from your right then you have right of way, they have to slow for you.

They certainly have to slow if I'm in my artic! - not that many do mind you - I try my best not to hold people up on roundabouts, but often, theres not a lot I can do about it.....

 

[dilated]

Oh no, because moving 3 lanes is so hard, it's not slowing you down is it ? Take a chill pill... People who slow you down are annoying, people who don't, well, who cares?

Im sure that your ignorance to the road and the picture of the volvo in your signature have no connection

 

[snowdog]

Im sure that your ignorance to the road and the picture of the volvo in your signature have no connection

I keep to the right myself because I fear a fine for not keeping to the right, I won't let myself be caught by them buggers in such an easy way, BUT, I do not care at all if people keep to the middle lane, I'm more annoyed by idiots who keep to the left ( think UK's right) on a 2 lane motorway doing UNDER the speed limit, those are the true morons and not the ''ah what the hell'' Audi guy in his 50's driving along the middle of a 3 lane motorway doing a little over the limit.

Basically, I'm thinking ''wtf'' about people who are annoyed about ''middle lane morons''. It's not like they cause you do adjust your cruise control or whatever, you only have to look, touch your indicator and slightly move your wheel.

However, I do not believe driving at 3am on a 3 lane motorway ( fair enough, a little bit faster than allowed, but unlike in the UK it's more a habit here than an exception) in the middle lane is causing an annoyance or obstruction to others... I can completely understand a 155mph driver would want some space to correct if something would go wrong.

Umm, inc the hard shoulder there are 4 lanes, so the left lane gives as much room as the 'middle' lane.
So that argument is pointless

I didn't have a 4 lane motorway in mind, but regardless, it's still nothing to be annoyed over imho.

 

[Morba]

However, I do not believe driving at 3am on a 3 lane motorway ( fair enough, a little bit faster than allowed, but unlike in the UK it's more a habit here than an exception) in the middle lane is causing an annoyance or obstruction to others... I can completely understand a 155mph driver would want some space to correct if something would go wrong.

In the middle of the night with no other traffic, be in whatever lane you want, but if another car comes up behind you you should get into the right lane.


I didn't have a 4 lane motorway in mind, but regardless, it's still nothing to be annoyed over imho.[/quote]

this is a british motorway we are talking about, the majority of the motorway network in the UK is 3 lanes+ hard shoulder. might be worth remembering that ;]

 

[snowdog]

this is a british motorway we are talking about, the majority of the motorway network in the UK is 3 lanes+ hard shoulder. might be worth remembering that ;]

I thought you meant 4 lanes+ hard shoulder from your post, I do not really count the hard shoulder as a lane... And maybe a physiological thing but I'd rather stay on the middle lane and have 2 normal lanes to evade to than a hard should to evade to on 1 side, the hard shoulder is, well, often it's clean but sometimes it's filled with little stones/other rubbish, rather evade to a normal lane than a hard shoulder, but, perhaps that is just some stupid psychological thing.

 

[mjt]

KEEP LEFT or KEEP RIGHT (outside UK)

Having to weave across the whole motorway and back again gets ****ing tiresome due to middle-lane ****.
I find cutting them up on the way back usually sends the message across

 

[rypt]

because when the motorway is busy lazy lemons stay stuck in the middle causing the slower moving traffic in the fast lane to prevent the normal people of this world from progressing at a decent pace. usually the inside lane has the odd lorry or petrified bird but apart from that its empty and filtering in and out (as you should be doing anyway) is hardly an effort and allows the roads to flow much smoother/faster.

Go and drive on French toll roads if you want to see poetry in motion, its a true pleasure to drive on those roads, their lane discipline is generally awesome.

so in short, stay out of the middle lane unless you are overtaking, its the law

Except that there inside lane is rarely completely empty, and is full of tramlines