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Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 12:57

Nasher said:
Prove otherwise lol. They haven't been around long enough to see the full lifecycle yet and how things will play out long-term...

Oh dear... try harder. :rolleyes:

https://insideevs.com/news/339110/highest-mileage-tesla-now-has-over-420000-miles/

"Naturally, issues like battery degradation and electric motor fatigue may appear with higher mileage vehicles. But that is easily serviceable and judging by the recent examples, even with such, high-mileage Tesla vehicles, the battery is still offering over 80% of its original capacity. The above list may be topped off by two Tesla Model S', but the Model X owners are slowly crawling for the top spots.

That's really a no surprise. Recently, one company racked up 300,00 miles on their Tesla in just two years, putting their Model X to the ultimate test. After two years of what can only be described as ultimate overutilization, the battery pack of that particular vehicle lost only 12.6% of its original capacity. Additionally, Tesloop - the owner of that Model X - has noticed that their 2016 Model X battery degradation has essentially plateaued after about 9 months."

Nasher · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:02

But it's still only 2 years old. When manufacturers test any car they hammer miles on it like that. See how they are in 12 years time and also the money spend to keep them going.

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:15

Nasher said:
But it's still only 2 years old. When manufacturers test any car they hammer miles on it like that. See how they are in 12 years time and also the money spend to keep them going.

In the face of evidence provided you still have to deny, deny, deny. A car that has done over 400,000 miles with 20% degradation to the battery pack, and you are complaining. If you think the chemistry of the pack will degrade more significantly with less use over a longer period then you need to check how the packs work.

Nasher · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:17

Journey said:
In the face of evidence provided you still have to deny, deny, deny. A car that has done over 400,000 miles with 20% degradation to the battery pack, and you are complaining. If you think the chemistry of the pack will degrade more significantly with less use over a longer period then you need to check how the packs work.

It will degrade with age, not just use.

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:29

Nasher said:
It will degrade with age, not just use.

EVERYTHING - degrades with age. What other pointless things would you like to say, to make your point even less valid?

jpaul · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:35

(batteries have had a good testing this is true ..
I'd like to know more about their cooling system reliability, with potential magnet or battery reliability
https://chargedevs.com/features/a-closer-look-at-rare-earth-permanent-magnets/ )

but comparing the golf with an ICE lease
seat leon 1.5 https://www.leasingoptions.co.uk/car-leasing/seat/leon
about £100 per month cheaper .. so if you were using only £20 p/week fuel it would be similar cost

Nasher · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:37

Journey said:
EVERYTHING - degrades with age. What other pointless things would you like to say, to make your point even less valid?

But the difference is you can't just to go ebay and buy used batteries. You'll always have to buy brand new which is $$$$$

How is the original Tesla Roaster doing all these years later?

There are plenty of old Priuses with knackered batteries too.

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:39

Nasher said:
But the difference is you can't just to go ebay and buy used batteries. You'll always have to buy brand new which is $$$$$

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Tesla...047184?hash=item2ac246d050:g:pjEAAOSwopVckPum

Nasher · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:40

Journey said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-Tesla...047184?hash=item2ac246d050:g:pjEAAOSwopVckPum

11 grand and that is JUST the batteries by themselves lol.

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:51

Nasher said:
But the difference is you can't just to go ebay and buy used batteries.

Nasher said:
11 grand and that is JUST the batteries by themselves lol.

You said you can't just go on eBay, once again you were proven wrong...

Nasher · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:52

Journey said:
You said you can't just go on eBay, once again you were proven wrong...

Sure you can buy almost anything on ebay, it doesn't mean it will be sensibly priced.

Try and find a battery pack for the price of the average engine...

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:56

Nasher said:
Sure you can buy almost anything on ebay, it doesn't mean it will be sensibly priced.

Try and find a battery pack for the price of the average engine...

Again altering your argument, once proven wrong.

I'm not sure why you are comparing a fuel source/storage to a propulsion device either. You can even get that right. The correct comparison would be a fuel tank to a battery pack, and an engine to a motor.

Nasher · 8 Sep 2019 at 13:58

A fuel tank vs a battery pack...

Ok then £11k vs £40

A motor is still around the price of a decent engine or more (each).

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 14:03

Nasher said:
A fuel tank vs a battery pack...

Ok then £11k vs £40

A motor is still around the price of a decent engine or more...

Ok, ok you win. BEV's are utter **** and a complete waste of time, the batteries last 30 seconds, and go 15 miles in the cold, they cost a fortune and you need to replace them at least once a week.

Now jog on to another thread.

Diagro · 8 Sep 2019 at 14:17

What car needs a £10k purchase after 10years?
Not many lol

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 14:21

Diagro said:
What car needs a £10k purchase after 10years?
Not many lol

If you listen to the plonkers around here then apparently every single BEV, but it will fail way before that. :rolleyes:

olv · 8 Sep 2019 at 15:47

Diagro said:
What car needs a £10k purchase after 10years?
Not many lol

I would expect the running costs of any car that is of equal performance to a Tesla model S to cost far more than £10k to run over ten years. Probably closer to double that figure.

Journey · 8 Sep 2019 at 15:51

olv said:
I would expect the running costs of any car that is of equal performance to a Tesla model S to cost far more than £10k to run over ten years. Probably closer to double that figure.

Shhh.. don't try and use logic with people here, you'll just get beaten with a stick by the cave men.

Maccapacca · 8 Sep 2019 at 15:53

Thinking about one of these for the missus, her work offer no cost charges she can charge it there, we are currently with Tilsun who are offering the Golf as well.

I've pre wired our new extension for a 7kw charger direct to the consumer unit. Just need to buy the end, any idea what to buy?

Drumroll · 8 Sep 2019 at 16:36

Marc2180 said:
Found this deal which looks to be the best lease deal on all electric car ever. I'm very close to pulling the trigger.

https://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing.../99kw-e-golf-35kwh-5dr-auto/3592328/55375040/

£1944 up front then 23 payments of £216 per month. Total cost £6912. 10k miles per annum.

It's in stock?
Just before closing the deal for the Mercedes A Class, some dealer at whatcar was offering a pretty good deal with the A250, but the 4 months, and potential for delays) put me off.
Just asking as most of the electric cars have long waiting lists.

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