The thing is, this is kind of a niche problem. Most people do not have such problems with porn. It tends to affect people who arent especially social and who tend to be sitting at home on the computer most of the time anyway. So their viewing of porn is just another symptom of their larger issue.
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I'd say the only way that it affects me is, If I 'hook up' with someone I think is fairly average/nothing special I can easily see them undress etc and not think it's very exciting. It doesn't affect me performing with them but with without the easy access to porn, it probably would be much more exciting. It's hard to explain without sounding like I'm contradicting myself but I do want to have sex with them but they probably have the worst naked body I've seen that week.
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Porn chicks aren't that hot in my opinion. Even those which are start to look like crack hoes after a couple of months, thus the idea you can't find someone at least on that level is interesting.
If I were look on facebook at the girls that went to my school and the vast majority of them would probably fit within the same criteria. The years of bindge drinking has caught up with most of them and they look terrible and overweight before they've hit 30.
If I hit the gym, most of the girls my age or younger probably look pretty good naked. I'd hazard a guess that you aren't entirly impressed at least partly because the ladies who frequent many of your sexy time shopping places, probably aren't the type of ladies that take care of themselves.
It could also have something to do with the fact we seem to make having sex with ladies some sort of sport. It's not entirly uncommon to not have sex for a year, but it's spoken about in this thread as if it's outrageous.
But no, lets blame porn, because adult males inability to tell the difference between reality and TV is the only potential cause.
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I agree to an extent, but then there are a surprisingly large amount of introverts out there, so it's maybe a larger group than you suggest. I do think that porn use correlates to some degree with how busy a person is - at uni several of my housemates used to watch porn whenever they were bored and had nothing better to do. I'm not suggesting that all these people will have a porn addiction or ED, but that porn may well have influenced their perception of themselves, women, or sex. You only have to look at how people's grooming 'down there' has changed since the 80s to realise that porn is, one way or another, having an influence on our sex lives.
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OP: Bit of a strange question - Do you take finasteride? Had a friend who took it and I heard it can have similar affects to what you described in your first post.
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I just had a little trouble with my pc and while I was sitting reading a book last night the thought came into my head "Oh no I can't surf the net for porn"
I haven't looked at any porn for at least five years but yet when I couldn't use my pc it was the one of the things that sprung into my mind I couldn't do.
I haven't looked at any porn for at least five years but yet when I couldn't use my pc it was the one of the things that sprung into my mind I couldn't do.
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Can't really see how you could generalise that. There's probably 100,000s of every type of woman (visually) you could ever think of, making porn
Nope, not on any medication nor do I have any health issues.
I strongly disagree with this sweeping statement. You shot me down earlier in the thread for using anecdotal evidence of myself and others as an aid to explaining the cause/symptoms, yet say completely baseless things like this? It quite frankly screams of hypocrisy. Have you looked at any of the links other people have posted here? This is a more widespread issue than you seem to believe and quite a few experts are beginning to take note of and study it.
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Im not sure what % it would be, but certainly a minority. Although on OcUK, im not so sure
Totally agree with the busy thing. Again, that does tie in with what I was saying about people who tend to stay in.
Did porn convince people to shave or did people wanting to shave result in it occuring more in porn? I honestly dont know.
Thats cool. Hopefully it will work for you ^^
and i saw the edit..but a physical examination cannot tell you about hormones etc. nor can a quick chat with a GP accurately diagnose you with some kind of porn induced erectile dysfunction..imo
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Pretty easily given you read the next few sentences after that quote.
It's a fairly seedy industry and most of the girls will typically lose their looks due to the obvious unclean living. Give it some time and some questionable surgical enchantments ( which to be many men say they like, while I personally think they're disturbing ) and they don't tend to look very attractive.
Typically, hot girls have options. Becoming a porn star isn't generally high on the list and while some of them will obviously opt to do so, the industry seems to take its toll, meaning theres probably a bunch of hotter girls in your area. Whether or not you can attract any of them is another matter.
I didnt shoot down your use of anecdotal evidence..did I? You used that anecdotal evidence to explain why you felt it was the issue you had, not to explain the issue itself.
Ive actually read almost all of the links in this thread before. Also read another forum dealing directly with this issue.
You say my comment is baseless and yet your very first post confirmed that you are one of the people I am referring to. You spent an entire year actively avoiding relationships with women and sexual relations. That is about as anti social (in the given context) as is possible to get.
Im not posting in here to troll you, but simply to try to give some balance and make sure people look at other options..Yourself included. I really dont mean any offence.
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This is quite an interesting thread. I watch a grip of porn, as well as having a healthy sex life with my gf. When we first got together I had been without sex for a few years (long story), and the only issues I encountered were based on nerves, which thankfully she was really cool about.
I can see how the logic fits, and I do try to get my gf to do some of the weirder things I see in porn (come on, who of you hasn't"slipped"
), but it hasn't posed a problem so far. I think porn and masturbation are separate entities from my sexual relationship with my gf (she won't watch it with me alas) and as a result I don't expect her to spin around for a facial so I can get my rocks off.
I can see how the logic fits, and I do try to get my gf to do some of the weirder things I see in porn (come on, who of you hasn't"slipped"
), but it hasn't posed a problem so far. I think porn and masturbation are separate entities from my sexual relationship with my gf (she won't watch it with me alas) and as a result I don't expect her to spin around for a facial so I can get my rocks off.
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I would have thought that this is blatantly obvious. The more you masturbate or have sex the less horny you are. As a wise man once said, when you masturbate you lose your power. It gets the point where if you masturbate a lot, the hornyness does not build up and it is when it builds up that it forces man to go on the chase and look for a mate. But when you masturbate a lot you don't have that same drive and it becomes a vicious circle because you never get girls because you don't let the hornyness build up and you masturbate cause you don't get girls.
Its a lot easier and cheaper and quicker to masturbate and you don't have to jump through a 1000 hoops etc.
I stopped watching hardcore porn years ago, that **** does my head in, as the system of a down song goes, choking ***** and sodomy the kind of **** you get on your tv. I prefer watching something very light like women volleyball or something like that. It also gets the point where you do it because its habit and also it helps you think better. personally if i don't masturbate for a long time i can't think straight, just think about girls most of the time.
Its a lot easier and cheaper and quicker to masturbate and you don't have to jump through a 1000 hoops etc.
I stopped watching hardcore porn years ago, that **** does my head in, as the system of a down song goes, choking ***** and sodomy the kind of **** you get on your tv. I prefer watching something very light like women volleyball or something like that. It also gets the point where you do it because its habit and also it helps you think better. personally if i don't masturbate for a long time i can't think straight, just think about girls most of the time.
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Just searched for some statistics on porn use and some are pretty shocking:
- 42% of internet users regularly view porn, that's 28,800 (roughly) per second
- The average age of first exposure to porn is 11
- There are 116,000 daily requests for material involving children
- Pornography viewing is greater among the wealthy and educated
- Revenue from porn in the USA exceeds the combined revenues of CBS, NBC, and ABC
- 9/10 teenagers have watched porn
- 88% of porn scenes contain acts of physical aggression, and 49% contain verbal abuse (though this depends on their definition of physical aggression and it's context within a porn scene)
Nothing in that is shocking. Other than the definition of 'physical aggression' that the person apparently used
Porn is, like everything else in the history of man, fine in moderation but will cause problems when overdone.
The aggression is an interesting point, and I could write an essay on why I think it is such a dominant theme. I think mostly it appears because the market is geared towards men. Would you watch porn that featured women dominating men (unless that's a particular fantasy of yours)? I have never understood the whole subjugation thing myself tbh, and watching some chick getting her face mashed into a pillow or sucking various secretions from her fingers just doesn't do anything for me. Apparently there are lots of dudes who are into that though.
Wasn't it the porn industry that ended the HD disc format war back in 2006? everyone was jumping between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray... because it wasn't until late 2007 I got my first modern console due to this. HD-DVD took a quick death when this all happened. As I remember friends always messaging me, it's this, this is it... then they started offloading their HD-DVD players.
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