Effigy of Obama hanged in America

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The US Secret Service says it is investigating after an effigy of Barack Obama was found hanging in the home town of former President Jimmy Carter.

TV footage showed the doll hanging by a noose in front of a red, white and blue sign that reads "Plains, Georgia. Home of Jimmy Carter, our 39th President".

Witnesses said the effigy had President Obama's name on it.

Plains Mayor LE Godwin III said the fire department had been called to take it down.

In Washington, US Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan confirmed that the agency was investigating the case.

Footage on local television station, WALB, showed a large black doll hanging over the sign, which is located above a shop on the main street in the rural town.

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Residents who saw it thought the effigy must have put in place during the night, WALB reports.

One Plains resident said the Secret Service had already interviewed local people.

"We wish it hadn't happened. It's not the kind of publicity the town of Plains likes," Jan Williams, who runs a hotel, was quoted as saying by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

She described Plains, which has a population of fewer than 700 people, as a "nice, quiet town".

I wondered how long this new image of America would last, I remember when he was elected and me and my dad were talking about him, I've heard from a few people say he'll be lucky to last his term.

Such a shame really that this still goes on but in the southern states there's still a lot of real ****** hating people. Probably the most important person of the last few years and the people he has to be most careful of is a bunch of inbred morons with a hunting rifle.
 
I dont know but I never heard of any effigies of any other presidents being burned.

And this isn't the UK where disgruntled people out of work stood around a burning bin and lit an effigy on News at Ten, this is the south where people have personal arsenals in their houses and sneak on buildings in the middle of the night to hang an effigy.

I imagine the effigies of Thatcher burned were by people such as miners etc. people who Thatcher directly influenced, I cant imagine a bunch of rednecks living in a town of 700 people even knows anythin about Obama other than he is black.
 
There are many threats to the President's life every day and that has been the case for a long time.

Georgia is the deep south and there will be a lot of people who do not like having a black president.

I'm sure Mr Obama will not be too troubled by this.
 
I dont know but I never heard of any effigies of any other presidents being burned.
It's happened loads, I'm almost certain of it. From 1841, President John Tyler to 2010*, President Barack Obama. Including, on the way, hundreds of Bush effigies in anti-war protest.

So, sorry world, non-issue.

* technically was also before he was a president in some places too
 
So because he's black an effigy is bad? Oh get a grip. How many Thatchers were burned in the 80s?!?!?!

Lots of them.

Burning effigies of American Presidents is quite common around the world. ;)

This story probably made the news because it's a quiet news day.
 
Maybe if he actually fulfilled his campaign promises they wouldn't hate him so much for having being deceived, his campaign was all about change yet all he has done so far is carry on with Bush's policies and try to push an unpopular health care bill down their throats.

This made me laugh:

Pretty handy that they can pull the racism card whenever anyone criticises his performance.
 
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So because he's black an effigy is bad? Oh get a grip. How many Thatchers were burned in the 80s?!?!?!

I'd have thought it had as much to do with the evocation of lynchings that were not entirely uncommon of black men in centuries past. Which whether intentional or not is somewhat crass.

Are burnt effigies normally investigated? If not then it would seem odd that this one should be. Unless we know the answer to that question then commenting further seems to be somewhat speculative, however it may also be that there is further information related to this particular effigy that has not been released warranting an investigation e.g. there is a clear and present threat suggested by it or a message that accompanied it which has not been released.
 
The racism card is a delicate situation, people on here always see things completely black and white (pardon the pun) who just dismiss everything to do with race yet it does play a part in lots of situations and is still an integral part of politics at every level.

I was in the car with my stepdad a few years ago and saw this black lad gettin beaten up by a bunch of white kids, now it is perfectly possible that this lad just banged one of their birds or somethin similar and was getting the treatment that any of them would've gotten in that scenario, but because its a black lad gettin battered by a bunch of white lads, you automatically assume its a racist thing. You might be wrong, and hopefully so, but that doesn't mean you are.

Obama will be lucky to finish his term, whether he keeps his promises or not, and whether you think its doom mongering or not, America still has a lot of Confederate lovin rednecks who dress up in their white garments and all that jazz.

I'm not talking about some mass underground army getting ready to pounce on the black man's government and all that, I'm talking about 4 or 5 racist guys getting within 200m of obama armed with a rifle, thats all it takes, and I'm guessing there are more than enough of them in America to be thinking about it.

As Semi-pro said, this effigy wasn't burned, it was lynched, in the south, I'm guessing this is a little more than "you said we'd have health care, here's what we think of your manifesto"
 
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I wondered how long this new image of America would last, I remember when he was elected and me and my dad were talking about him, I've heard from a few people say he'll be lucky to last his term.

Such a shame really that this still goes on but in the southern states there's still a lot of real ****** hating people. Probably the most important person of the last few years and the people he has to be most careful of is a bunch of inbred morons with a hunting rifle.

Well he's done almost smeg all, after very very strongly opposing the "surge" in Iraq saying it wouldn't work for months, it happened, was incredibly successful and now he's done the same thing in Afghan(is planning too).

His whole anti-war campaign, yet he's increasing numbers in an even more pointless war than that IN Iraq. lets be honest, there was money to be made in Iraq and with Iran maybe the worst place in the world for supporting terrorists, while trying to make the bomb, a weak and pathetic Iraq sitting next to them, almost lawless was a problem waiting to happen. There were plenty of reasons to go to Iraq, the biggest reason being Iran. Theres no reason to be in Afghan.

His health care plan, its genius, take one of the better run healthcare systems in the world(medicare/caid was actually very well run on great margins compared to most free healthcare systems) then overload it with an extra hundred million(maybe 200million) people, with no support, in an economy desparate for cuts. I think the healthcare system there accounts for 18% of all government spending, and they're trying to add 2/3rds of the population into the system, without any spare money to speak of. Its ambition, maybe a good idea in theory, free healthcare for all is a great theory, except its not free, and certainly not for all. The problem is, America can't afford it at all. Either way in his first term he pulled out(kind of) of a war Bush had already started pulling out for, got a noble prize for peace for increasing the prescence in a far more pointless war thats impossible to win and started off a ridiculous waste of time in a health care plan that can't possible work and could just flat out bankrupt the government.

There was NOTHING important about Obama's election, he wasn't ever a good politician and he's so incredibly left wing, more than anyone else in the democratic party, that he's more intent on doing what sounds morally right, rather than whats right for the country. He's black, boo hoo, who cares, he's the president and he's done nothing useful for us for the world at large or for americans.

The recent global warming type talks were embarassing, big speech essentially saying its a massive breakthrough, because.......... everyone agreed to TELL EACH OTHER what they were doing about cutting emissions. NO real goals, no nothing, an arbitrary "we won't let the temp rise more than 2C" without a baseline to start from, and no actual plans to combat global warming, just going to talk to other countries about it....... what a guy.
 

All that maybe true, I'm sure a pro-obama would list a few things he has done but I dont think that is the point.

Each person in history is remembered for one thing, everything else is secondary, and unless Obama triggers a third world war or something equally as shocking, he will be remembered as the first black president, end of.

That achievement in itself will be enough to mark his place in history as a success, the war, the economy, global warming etc. were all problems before his tenure started and while I'm not defending any of them, his name will go down in the books as making efforts to try and stop them, you can argue about George Bush and Tony Blair, but their names will be down right next to declarations of war and economical decisions that impacted the economy.

Barack Obama has to finish his term without a major upset and his name in history will be secured, yes its a shame that he will be judged on the colour of his skin but that is the way the world works, there was no way that the first black president was ever gonna be remembered as anything but the first black president, the second and third ones will be judged on their deeds, but Obama's feat of getting their in the first place is enough of an achievement in itself.

If Obama gets assassinated, it will put the Civil Rights Movememt in America and even the world given America's influence back at least 20 years.
 
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