Elite dangerous vs EvE?

More different ED doesn't have the infrastructure for large player collectives/interaction and the same level of world shaping as you get in Eve other areas like industry and commerce are substantially different as well.
 
They've barely got anything in common bar some spaceships. Faster than Light also has spaceships, it's as different to either Elite or Eve as they are to each other.
 
Elite has come a long way but is still boring to the point of existential angst whenever I play it, still not quite a finished product yet.
 
EvE is a well established, rich, detailed living breathing universe with endless content. ED is an online solo galaxy photo generator.

ED is more fun off the bat and you'll enjoy it, but it wont hold you for long.

EvE if you get into it will keep you hooked for the next decade and ruin all other MMOs for you.
 
Edward78 said:
ED is a MMO though?
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No not at all, the majority of the player base don't want much of the original game content to change. They are risk averse to pvp do not like surpise content and are so against change it is scary.

Honestly, the biggest mistake FDEV made was allowing a group mode and solo mode that all affected the online open game play by way of Community goals and power play.

The forum community in ED are so against PVP that any instance of "non consensual" and spontaneous pvp is looked upon as griefing...

They want to basically play the game without any threat of being destroyed and will resort to mountains of tears and sperging on the forums when FDEV supports this kind of pvp.

The game is supposed to be an open ended sandbox blaze your own trail but the community is absolute...ly terrible.

There are large groups of 10k plus players moving away from online open play to private player groups to completely avoid potential hostile player interaction despite having the tools to avoid it which takes away from the game because they dont want to be someone elses content.

FDEV have provided a funnel for these people to AVOID learning and getting good at the game from player interaction and experiance be it hostile or not by allowing private group play.

The biggest mistake they ever made was having a private group mode.

Utter ********, if you want pvp in this game then don't expect much.

Just a bunch of whineing carebears who have NO IDEA how lucky they have it.

Eve is a truely hardcore sandbox but its not first person which is the only downside as a lot of people prefer this. I played Eve online for 10 years and I can only praise the game, Elite while beautiful and fun on the basic level when you try to move into the finer aspects of the game you see how glaringly bad/boring it is.


No it is not an MMO... the player base do not want player transfers/alliances/group conflict or interaction/player trading... all the things that make an MMO, hell they do not even want players to have wings to fly in now that it was implemented.

A pathetic community honestly just read their forums its like reading a space version of mumsnet.
 
jakspyder said:
EvE is a well established, rich, detailed living breathing universe with endless content. ED is an online solo galaxy photo generator.

ED is more fun off the bat and you'll enjoy it, but it wont hold you for long.

EvE if you get into it will keep you hooked for the next decade and ruin all other MMOs for you.
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This.
 
Allnamestaken said:
No not at all, the majority of the player base don't want much of the original game content to change. They are risk averse to pvp do not like surpise content and are so against change it is scary.

Honestly, the biggest mistake FDEV made was allowing a group mode and solo mode that all affected the online open game play by way of Community goals and power play.

The forum community in ED are so against PVP that any instance of "non consensual" and spontaneous pvp is looked upon as griefing...

They want to basically play the game without any threat of being destroyed and will resort to mountains of tears and sperging on the forums when FDEV supports this kind of pvp.

The game is supposed to be an open ended sandbox blaze your own trail but the community is absolute...ly pants.

There are large groups of 10k plus players moving away from online open play to private player groups to completely avoid potential hostile player interaction despite having the tools to avoid it which takes away from the game because they dont want to be someone elses content.

FDEV have provided a funnel for these people to AVOID learning and getting good at the game from player interaction and experiance be it hostile or not by allowing private group play.

The biggest mistake they ever made was having a private group mode.

Utter ********, if you want pvp in this game then don't expect much.

Just a bunch of whineing carebears who have NO IDEA how lucky they have it.

Eve is a truely hardcore sandbox but its not first person which is the only downside as a lot of people prefer this. I played Eve online for 10 years and I can only praise the game, Elite while beautiful and fun on the basic level when you try to move into the finer aspects of the game you see how glaringly bad/boring it is.


No it is not an MMO... the player base do not want player transfers/alliances/group conflict or interaction/player trading... all the things that make an MMO, hell they do not even want players to have wings to fly in now that it was implemented.

A pathetic community honestly just read their forums its like reading a space version of mumsnet.
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This says everything that needs said about ED. The Community have ruined the development direction and culture within that game. I desperately hope SC (if it ever comes out) doesn't fall into that trap.
 
I haven't really played EvE much, aside from 2-3 week stint post-trial, but it seems to me that EvE could do with incorporating parts of the immersion that ED provides, and ED could do with having any actual meaningful gameplay, like EvE.

They are very, very different, and I am of the opinion that ED has fundamental flaws, the correction of which would mean starting pretty much from scratch and alienating a huge swathe of their fans.
 
Zefan said:
I haven't really played EvE much, aside from 2-3 week stint post-trial, but it seems to me that EvE could do with incorporating parts of the immersion that ED provides, and ED could do with having any actual meaningful gameplay, like EvE.
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Yeah basically, but eve is essentially an MMORPGRTS
 
Nothing wrong with people not wanting PVP.

PVP is there in ELITE, however when the PVP crowd dont get there own way they start chirping and moaning really really loud. The DEVs cave in and before you know population of the game is down and all thats left is 121 PVP players moaning about the lack of players.

That being said it still not a finished product and still a basic Korean MMPORG without the MMPORG bit.

Personally I stuck it out to a half decent Anaconda and not touched since 1 week after power-play was released and the crazy ship repair prices, So they doubled the time required to gain even more credits which you needed for upgrades and new ships. The only time I will return is when my PC has been upgraded for VR at max bling.
 
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Elite is still quite a way from being finished yet. They only had a year to get it released from being on kickstarter. They did a good job on it considering the tight schedule though. Everything they said would be done was done, and on time too.

A LOT of features are yet to be finished. I think it will be a few years yet before we see something close to "finished". Even some of the content added in alpha as placeholders are still there.
 
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SPG said:
Nothing wrong with people not wanting PVP.

PVP is there in ELITE, however when the PVP crowd dont get there own way they start chirping and moaning really really loud. The DEVs cave in and before you know population of the game is down and all thats left is 121 PVP players moaning about the lack of players.

That being said it still not a finished product and still a basic Korean MMPORG without the MMPORG bit.

Personally I stuck it out to a half decent Anaconda and not touched since 1 week after power-play was released and the crazy ship repair prices, So they doubled the time required to gain even more credits which you needed for upgrades and new ships. The only time I will return is when my PC has been upgraded for VR at max bling.
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I don't think you bother to read the forums really, the pvp crowd don't need to chirp around about not getting there way because the devs have done nothing to curb pvp.

The playerbase however demands that we have pvp flags or pve servers or begs on the forums for the game to be changed because they feel they shouldn't have to play in open if it means there is a 1 in a trillion chance they should get there boat violenced, that is pathetic.

Fdev by catering to these simplistic plebs and allowing solo/group play progress to affect ONLINE OPEN!!!?!?!? without ANY FORM of player risk??

What the actual ****? So I can go into solo and affect the power play and undermine someone elses home system take it all by my lonesome in SOLO without them being able to do a DAMN thing about it? Makes sense right? I can do this if someone kills me and im not happy I can do this without reproach seems balanced right? Do you see the pvpers complaining about it? No.. but everytime someone dies the way they don't like it they call for everything to be changed. The community is actual...ly dreadful.

I've got a lot in assets I don't go around "griefing" people although griefing in ED can simply be pulling someone out of supercruise.........

These people want immersion well in a big open universe this means sometimes you will be none consensually interdicted, because flying around with a cargo full of slaves in a T9 with NO shields and NO defences fit all for flying cargo demands there to be risk for all that reward.

What solo/group play allows is for people to have nothing but reward without all the risk so the moment they get caught out in open they leave to solo/group and never come back... because Fdev in their infinite stupidness created a natural funnel for their players to be bad.
 
Ed there's just not enough to do, and eve is rubbish click buttons.

ED, x3 and SWG needs to have a child.
I dint know why someone hasn't built it yet, even just x3 mmo would be a million times better than ED or EVE.
 
I long to be interdicted by a player. If you want pvp though just go to the more populous systems and start pirating. There are some organised groups of police who will come out and fight your criminal ass. As I discovered. It's too safe in open play so I can't see what all this mobius group stuff is about.
 
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