Soldato
yeah a good hard lesson for those on the bread line using eclectic meters and and already on the bottom rung of society
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yeah a good hard lesson for those on the bread line using eclectic meters and and already on the bottom rung of society
Time of Use energy tariff options are only going to increase over the next years.
They will steer homeowners to use energy during less popular times.
Everyone will be wanting to work 2-10
Until energy companies see more people wanting to cherry pick to their advantage.
Also, I must point out that despite what I say about using less and paying less, the same theory applies. Energy companies will simply increase the standing charges to claw back the difference, plus the unit price will increase even more substantially. The government and regulators will green light it, so don't expect any support there.
Who needs tv when you can walk around your local neighbourhood staring through windows.
Plus you'll save on heating when the police stick you in a cell
People aren't going to swap their entertainment in the evening after a days work for a walk. Can't go the pub either as that's too expensive.
Is it more about micro management?
Newer PCs and screens etc shouldn't use more than 0.5 Watts on standby.. But I tend to flick them off at the plug anyway..
The only things in my house that are on mains 247 is the fridge, the freezer, and the router.
Newer PCs and screens etc shouldn't use more than 0.5 Watts on standby.. But I tend to flick them off at the plug anyway..
The only things in my house that are on mains 247 is the fridge, the freezer, and the router.
They won't have much choice in the matter. I think people are going to get a real shock back end of the year. We'll probably have work from home recommendations late Autumn/ early Winter to help "protect" plebs from a new COVID variant. Of course, the real reason will be to try and dampen inflation by trying to reduce demand for petrol and diesel amongst other things. It won't fully work however as people will be paying more on their gas bill to pay for the fact it will be on for much longer whilst WFH.
Soldato
Says the guy who thinks people are going to go for an hours walk instead of watching tv to save a couple of pence.
I'm thinking the opposite of all this talk of using less.
It's 2022 and the human race should have had a firm grasp on energy generation by now and it should be protected right to be able to have cheap non-polluting electricity. There should be a limit to how much is cheap of course, there'll always be the ones that overkill it and ruin the party. Perhaps one day in the distant future.
It's 2022 and the human race should have had a firm grasp on energy generation by now and it should be protected right to be able to have cheap non-polluting electricity. There should be a limit to how much is cheap of course, there'll always be the ones that overkill it and ruin the party. Perhaps one day in the distant future.
germany oil industry had proposed WFH already, along with ride-sharing, A road speed reductions, limited city access at weekends.
.... (he is not the Messiah) Martin Lewis take on PV break even with current/projected caps
Soldato
We already know the prices are going up so 'rises by 25%' seems to be a given.
For most households with more than a couple of kids I think the break even figure is a tad lower than they are claiming there.
For people that go to work (i.e. do not work from home), have no children (extra energy users), or just use low amounts of energy I think that would be accurate.
ed - thanks @jpaul for sharing that snippet
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I am not a fan of using the washing line to dry, but one can’t be too bothered by the prices if using dryer 2-3 times a day when you can hang it up and have dry in an hour or two in the baking sun.
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It reads like he puts his kids in the washing machine and dryer, presumably to keep them entertained
That data is way off - I’m saving monthly, what they are predicting annually !!
Solar really needs a battery to benefit most.
Without a battery the panels could be maxed out sending all excess power back to the grid (at 4p kWh credit) but a cloud comes over and suddenly you’re demanding power from the grid (At 31p+ kWh).
With battery storage connected any excess solar power gets stored, so if a cloud comes over it uses that stored solar power from the battery, rather than go to the grid, meaning bigger cost savings.
Also, without a battery, if you’re not home during the day being able to use the solar, then nearly all of it will go to waste.
Looks to me like that table was deliberately designed to put people off solar
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It's so dependant on time of year though. A guy I work with generates 4Mwh a year, which is not too bad, however that's averaged so he won't be able to generate enough in winter, but makes too much in summer. You have to look at the whole year, not just the peaks in summer. Obviously location makes a difference too (I'd imagine the biggest difference).That data is way off - I’m saving monthly, what they are predicting annually !!
Solar really needs a battery to benefit most.
Without a battery the panels could be maxed out sending all excess power back to the grid (at 4p kWh credit) but a cloud comes over and suddenly you’re demanding power from the grid (At 31p+ kWh).
With battery storage connected any excess solar power gets stored, so if a cloud comes over it uses that stored solar power from the battery, rather than go to the grid, meaning bigger cost savings.
Also, without a battery, if you’re not home during the day being able to use the solar, then nearly all of it will go to waste.
Looks to me like that table was deliberately designed to put people off solar
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A second for data is way off. I have saved around £150 and have only had mine installed just over two months, with no battery!
When battery comes my summer bills are going to be almost zero and winter rate will work out around 10p/kwh
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The panels will still produce some power during the winter months, probably around 20-40% of what it does in summer, even on a cloudy day it will still generate something, the obvious thing is that day light hours are significantly shorter than in the summer months.
It's almost a reversal of day light vs night. Summer its 6-7 hours dark, 17-18 hours light. Winter its more like 17-18 dark, 6-7 hours light.
In terms of generation, south facing is the best, followed by west, north and finally east.
It's almost a reversal of day light vs night. Summer its 6-7 hours dark, 17-18 hours light. Winter its more like 17-18 dark, 6-7 hours light.
In terms of generation, south facing is the best, followed by west, north and finally east.