England Summer Internationals - 7/6 & 10/6

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Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), James Trafford (Burnley)

Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Dan Burn (Newcastle), Trevoh Chalobah (Chelsea), Levi Colwill (Chelsea), Reece James (Chelsea), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Myles Lewis-Skelly (Arsenal), Kyle Walker (AC Milan, on loan from Manchester City)

Midfielders: Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Conor Gallagher (Atletico Madrid), Morgan Gibbs-White (Nottingham Forest), Jordan Henderson (Ajax), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Morgan Rogers (Aston Villa), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle)

Forwards: Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Noni Madueke (Chelsea), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ivan Toney (Al-Ahli), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa).

 
Pickford has always been great for England, but I'm really hoping to see Henderson between the sticks to spur competition for number 1.

Wharton in the U21s and Henderson in the squad seems insane - even with my Palace hat on.
The professionals must see something to Henderson the fans don't get to see. It doesn't take a genius to understand you want a balance of young & experienced, but I'm not sure why it's Henderson who is that balance.
 
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I like Tuchel, at least he comes out and says it wasn't good enough.

Some previous managers would have washed over it.
 
That wasn't a good watch.

Understatement of the year. Haven't watched International football in years and owing to circumstances, stuck it on for something to watch.

Even taking into consideration the timing of the games, an incredibly poor standard. And Andorra were unlucky not to make a bit more of their one big chance and some breaks in general.
 
I don't understand why these players aren't playing for the badge. They're getting to represent their country. That should always mean something. Even if they don't play well or things don't work they should at least play with pride and some grit.
 
I don't understand why these players aren't playing for the badge. They're getting to represent their country. That should always mean something. Even if they don't play well or things don't work they should at least play with pride and some grit.

Combination of reasons. Think the amount of games played this season was showing yesterday and there was an expectation of victory, given who the opponent was before a ball was kicked.

Furthermore, not sure I've seen as empty a stadium in a long time for what is considered a meaningful game. Maybe this is common place in the qualifiers now but the stadium was bare. Hardly motivating.

That being said, going into a World Cup year with a coach at the early stage of his tenture and likely to tinker / drop / change, you would have thought there would have been a bit more zip about them. Madueke seemed like the only player who really wanted to put a good shift in.
 
Madueke and Jones the only ones that seemed bothered.

Well Kane as well but it's always hard to tell with him because his game is only spurts of activity.
 
I tuned in around 20 minutes and didn't realise Jones was playing in the first half and I'm a Liverpool fan so would have been looking out for him. He did play a very good through ball for Kane though and that's an assist, more often than not.

I find there's just a real lack of jeopardy with the International qualifiers. The commentators were saying how it was important to get a result and that they had some difficult games coming up.

I hadn't a clue who was in England's group but when I looked it up, it was hardly a list of intimidating opponents. If you can't top that group then you'd have no chance of winning any sort of International tournament anyway. And even with that, you can still come 2nd and potentially trundle through.

There is an hypocrisy in that I will tune into major tournaments once they're in the full swing and I understand these games have to be played in order to facilitate that, but the standard of the football is subpar to club football and as I said, it feels like nothing is really at stake until you get into the throws of the tournament.

You occasionally may get two big teams paired off with each other in a play-off qualifier but with the expanded number of teams in the tournament, even that feels less likely now?

Realise I'm going a bit old man yells at cloud and naturally will be tuning in to watch Spain vs Portugal. :D
 
For some reason recently the England players seem to just want to do the bare minimum - soon as they go a goal up they seem to down tools - against better opposition it will cost them. We are a much better team going forward than defending.
 
Looks worse under Tuchel than Southgate :cry: managed 10 mins viewing against Andorra and not watching at all tonight. Waste of time!
 
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