English League Football ** spoilers ** [16th - 19th October 2010]

Greenlizard0 said:
The guy's an absolute ****, who needs a better haircut, and fewer tattoos, but E Diouf can be a really skilful winger at times.
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It would be so great if he was a truly awful player, can't stand the guy.

Was funny last night in his little confrontation with Phil Bardsley, well not funny, confusing, I didn't know which of the two I hated more, both spiteful little gits.

Diouf really is one of the biggest ***** in football though, spitting at fans not once but several times, I mean spitting at a player is hardly better, just slightly less bad. Ok, some fans are utter scum aswell but you can't know who has said bad things about you, randomly spitting at anyone is just vile.



As for Rooney, he's not the player people thought he would be.

You've either got a pretty damn good, hard working midfielder, he's not really a playmaker, his passing just isn't good enough even if his vision and idea's are. He can also be a good finisher, but he was closer to RVN than Henry last year, he was about the 6 yard box and not really involved with anything the team did while Berbatov is closer to Henry, scores but creates and controls the game around him aswell, Rooney as he played last year wasn't that guy.

As decent as he's been in other years, 10-16 goals as a striker who spends too much time in midfield is hardly irreplaceable.

Rooney's loss, if he went, wouldn't make a big difference, you can't tell the difference between him playing now or not, Henandez looks like he can be that guy who gets in the right places for the easy finishes and Berbatov has always been the guy who can score aswell as create behind him. Its not like 10-16 goal a year players are very easy to find, but they aren't that rare aswell.

Rooney is not a 20+ goals(league) a season every season player, never has been or will be. He doesn't drag the team to victory, he doesn't inspire the team, he's not the captain, he doesn't dominate games for 90 minutes, he doesn't create many chances for others.
 
Nickg said:
nani has quick feet and skill typical of a winger. bale has hustle and bustle (as ive stated before).. which is an endearing attribute alright but not great for a winger... think valencia vs nani
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yeah - Valencia will be at Utd (if the injury heals fully) long after Nani has gone
 
yep, the good ones will move on and the lesser talented will stay and bring more mediocraty to the club.

honestly Valencia isnt THAT much better than Park.

and look at Park, no ambition survived many seasons by not asking for huge wage rise etc. happy to warm the bench.

WHilst Nani will be courted by Barca and Real, valencia will be left to rot at Man Utd.
 
Nickg said:
honestly Valencia isnt THAT much better than Park.
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He is a lot better than Park, for one he can cross, for two he can beat a man....for three he isn't a lemon.

Unless you mean that Valencia in his current injured state isn't that much better than Park, in which case I agree.
 
He is a lot better than Park, for one he can cross, for two he can beat a man....for three he isn't a lemon
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interesting you should say that.

but regardless lets see withn the next 3 years, want to bet £5 paypal pounds that nani gets approached by barca or real and as for Valencia...well i bet he goes to to tottenham or something?
 
By Graham Poll, Daily Mail 18 Oct


There are so many misconceptions about refereeing. At least one can be dispelled after Tottenham's controversial win at Fulham.

Mike Dean did not - as many including Mark Hughes claimed - fail to support his assistant Martin Yerby when Tom Huddlestone struck the winner in the 63rd minute at Craven Cottage.

The two officials followed protocol and came to the absolutely correct decision together - that the offside William Gallas was not interfering with play.


It is impossible for an assistant to be absolutely sure if a player, who is in an offside position, is directly in the line of vision of the goalkeeper.

What complicated matters further was that Huddlestone's 30-yard strike took an audible deflection. Yerby, some 45 yards away, could not be sure who got the touch.

The offside law states that a player who is in an offside position, as Gallas clearly was, must either interfere with play or an opponent or gain an advantage from being in that position.

FIFA has defined that a player must actually play the ball to be deemed to be interfering with play and referee Dean, from his better position, knew the deflection was by Baird and so Gallas could not have interfered with play.

He also saw that Gallas was not in the line of goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer's vision and so was not, in FIFA's terms, interfering with an opponent.

After sensible consultation Dean and Yerby agreed that the goal was legal. It was Dean and Yerby's experience which led to this correct outcome and not pressure from players as also suggested.
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so an attacking player can block a gk completely when a goal is scored, and because the attacking player didnt touch the ball, he isnt interfering?

Surely there is something wrong there?

(Im meaning in general in relation to the FIFA rule, not this specific case)
 
The offside law states that a player who is in an offside position, as Gallas clearly was, must either interfere with play or an opponent or gain an advantage from being in that position.
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unclear, is that gain a personal advantage or a team advantage?

FIFA has defined that a player must actually play the ball to be deemed to be interfering with play
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so the 'law' contradicts fifas definition of said law?

i dont understand. fifa say they must play the ball this isnt what the lw says.. but who made this law?
 
Funny. In the Arsenal game last night, Shakhtar played a ball over the top at one point, and whilst one of their forwards was clearly offside and dropping back, the ball flew just over his head and was touched first by an entirely onside winger passing him. Yet the move was flagged offside, like they nearly always do, any other time a similar situation occurs in a game I've seen.

I've no doubt that it's a FIFA rule, but its a retarded one.
 
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