English League Football ** spoilers ** [24th - 28th September 2010]
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Leeds-Preston, Leeds 4-1 up after 40 minutes, match finished 6-4 to Preston!
Amazing result! My only wish is that every football match would be as exciting as this one.
Where as I don't think Wenger really does believe it all, but he knows he has to be strict with what he spends. It's not going to do the players any good if he comes out and says "We need new players but I can't spend the money so we'll have to struggle on with these".
I can't see how Wenger can take criticism in anyway in how he has run the club, and he has run the club as a whole. He does so much more than the football side of things.
Tom84: You do know that Fabregas is going to Barcelona whether Arsenal win everything or not, right? He always has been going back, and it's never been in any sort of doubt.
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You don't pay wages on something you buy at Tesco, so your analogy is terrible. Try again.
Plenty of managers **** up a club by signing too many players, on too high wages. Hell, take Portsmouth. Their problem wasn't neccesarily paying so much for all their players. It was tying them down to expensive contracts and being unable to sell them on because of this. See also: Leeds United.
So you ask us to explain why we still rate Wenger, despite not winning anything, and we do so, and your response is "Yeah but that didn't win you anything"?
Genius. I have no comeback.
Oh, no wait. Yes I do.
Top four, every season, despite a potentially crippling new stadium project that would have resulted in most clubs either going massively into debt, dropping several places down the league, or lucking in a noveau riche oligarch owner. No, we don't get a trophy, but you don't think that's commendable?
Oh **** me, another winning riposte. The biggest club in England has JUST AS GOOD a youth setup as Arsenal? Well **** me, our system must be rubbish then!
When you look at the cost of Arsenal's squad compared with City, Utd, Chelsea and Spurs's in isolation then to finish in the top 4 is a huge achievement and Wenger has therefore been successful.
However, we know for a fact that (in real terms) Arsenal are the most profitable club in the league (even after making the payments towards their debts) and the Arsenal board keep telling us that there is money for Wenger to spend.
If that's the case and Wenger is choosing not to spend the money because of his beliefs and ideals of how football clubs should be run, then the cost of Arsenal's squad and how much more money other managers have spent count for little. Money can only be used as an excuse if Wenger doesn't have the option to spend it.
Yes, Arsenal have a great youth setup, a first class stadium and are in a heathly financial position but ultimately success is determined on the pitch. How successful Wenger has been over the last few seasons is dependent on the truth regarding how much money he has available to him.
However, we know for a fact that (in real terms) Arsenal are the most profitable club in the league (even after making the payments towards their debts) and the Arsenal board keep telling us that there is money for Wenger to spend.
If that's the case and Wenger is choosing not to spend the money because of his beliefs and ideals of how football clubs should be run, then the cost of Arsenal's squad and how much more money other managers have spent count for little. Money can only be used as an excuse if Wenger doesn't have the option to spend it.
Yes, Arsenal have a great youth setup, a first class stadium and are in a heathly financial position but ultimately success is determined on the pitch. How successful Wenger has been over the last few seasons is dependent on the truth regarding how much money he has available to him.
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Yeah but whilst it's all well and good to say "look at all that profit you're making!", you know full well that's not the be-all and end-all of it.
Wenger could go out, throw the cash around like he's 50 Cent, sign a bunch of expensive players, and we wouldn't go bankrupt, no. But then we'd have less money to pay off the debt, and it would leave as at more risk were anything serious to happen to the club. Far better to pay it off while we're healthy and doing well than hoping it will just sort itself out.
Wenger could go out, throw the cash around like he's 50 Cent, sign a bunch of expensive players, and we wouldn't go bankrupt, no. But then we'd have less money to pay off the debt, and it would leave as at more risk were anything serious to happen to the club. Far better to pay it off while we're healthy and doing well than hoping it will just sort itself out.