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ElvisFan said:
That was brilliant, saw that on ********
Enoch wuz 'ere?
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That was brilliant, saw that on ********
cleanbluesky said:
Yeah because its just crazy to think people can make friends with people of different cultures isn't it... (normally a "roll eyes" icon would go here, but i think you get the point from my tone)
cleanbluesky said:
Just thinking out loud here, but maybe its got to do with the people you probably hang around with.... Hmmm....
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True, however this rule somehow excepts religion when it's just as much a choice as how you dye your hair.Erazor said:You do realise you are free to believe what you wishBanning costume parties, people who wear pink etc. is not part of the law either. If you don't like someone's Jeans or brand of trainers, you can always look away
How is multiculturalism (that's how you spell it by the way) 'economically' successful?Erazor said:It is economically and socially successful, when I go to a bar, I get to mix with other cultures in addition to my own. Makes me feel like I'm wearing a comfortable pair of shoes when I go on holiday because I understand some of the culture and language, and sometimes get a place to stayIt also introduces me to a wider variety of food, music and cinema
If multiculturalism (and multiracialism which often go hand-in-hand) is working, why do the different groups of people choose to segregate themselves into their own 'communities'? Why do the alien cultures who have come here often retain their own culture and not integrate with the natives either socially or culturally?
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Erazor said:See my post above about my trip to Singapore
It's a nice post, although it doesn't actually address what DirtyDog asked.
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Erazor said:In February, I went to Singapore and a friend's parents put me up for 2 weeks whilst I was on tour. I also wanted to go to Japan but I got sidetracked by a business meeting in Amsterdam. Another friend recently took me to see Provoked starring Ashywariya Rai which is a Bollywood flick, in return, I took him to see Pirates of the Caribbean 3 but I have to say both movies were not very good. I am trying to be negative, but actually I'm quite a positive person. A chinese friend of mine took me to an all you can eat buffet for a fiver during lunch, not really keen on Chinese but was actually impressed by the hot and sour soup, crackers and sweet and sour chicken. This week I promised to take him for an Italian Pizza or Nandos, still undecided on where to go yet.
As for today, me and the wife did not feel like cooking today, so opted for some fish n chips, only wish The Apprentice was on today not tommorrow
Firstly Erazor, how old are you? Also I don't really understand what questions you are asking or your replies to other peoples questions.
Your above point makes hardly any sense at all. Firstly i though you were talking about the UK or Manchester specifically so your holiday is not valid.
Also i don't think that just because you eat food that is not British means that all multiculturalism is positive.
Erazor said:Is it just me or are more and more people finding past right wing idols, insulting burkha clad women and posting other tosh simply to justify the death of the liberal? Where I live in Manchester, multiculturism is thriving and has been a huge success story. Sure, you get radical Christians, Jews, Islamists from time to time but they will always exist and will never mend their ways due to blind hatrid
As for insulting a particular group of people because of what they wear, what they look like, what they think. surely isn't the right way to go? (excuse the pun)
The polls of course always reflect liberal thinking and always will, opinions?
It's the classic "I'm not happy but it can't be my fault" attitude, I believe.
Many people feel much more at ease with everything being blamable on a specific group, rather than considering they might be doing something wrong. In truth, most of the problems in this country have very little to do with the colour of people's skin or how long they've been here, those are just a handy scapegoat... Can't get a job, blame immigrants, not happy with the NHS, blame immigrants, not happy that you can't afford a house, blame immigrants...
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Dolph said:
The irony of criticing others for their criticism of others...
There are few, if any, people who take this attitude IMHO. Perhaps we should examine the people who seem to need a fascist-phantom (that we can lump all opposing argument into) whose principles are based on only the most illogical and emotional principles, against whom we can measure our values.
It would be ignorant simplicity to blame everything on immigrants, just as it is ignorant simplicity to believe that this issue revolves around nothing more than a mistaken and emotional population of single-minded immigrant haters who behave like sheep.
dirtydog said:
I would like to see immigration curtailed that's for sure, but that's based pretty much entirely around economics. I'm not happy with supporting home grown people who can't support themselves, I'm definitely not happy to support people coming here who can't support themselves. The flip side of that is I have no problem with immigration from financially solvent and economically beneficial people, irrespective of where they immigrate from.
Most of the anti-immigration arguments I see put forward usually revolve around how X would be better if Y wasn't here, and are totally misleading. The NHS isn't suffering because of immigrants, it's suffering because of chronic mismanagement and all the flaws of being an effective monopoly making the organisation lazy and bloated. House prices aren't suffering because of immigration, but through a lack of building and a dramatic increase in single occupancy households resulting in demand outstripping supply, and so on. Closing our borders now wouldn't address any of these issues, and so to suggest otherwise is flawed.
Of course the NHS would be better if there was less demand on it. Of course housing would be in greater supply if there was less demand on it. Immigration isn't the sole cause of problems in these areas but then few people would argue that it is. There is no question that is is a factor though, and in my opinion a very significant one.Dolph said:
dirtydog said:
What about immigrants working within the NHS, would the change in demand make up for the decrease in staff levels?
The problem with your opinion of it being very significant is that there's no real evidence to back it up...