Its not my interpretation at all, the reason its there is because its on/in the iMac.
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Its not my interpretation at all, the reason its there is because its on/in the iMac.
The dell screen is unnecessary for one the DGM IPS-2701WPH has the same panel as the apple cinema display and it's £215 cheaper.
also windows ultimate? why not just home. I always thought the thing about pc's vs macs is that you dont need to spec it up to be the same, its much more flexible if your buying just components, you can just get the core bits you want. Also for the same money you could spec a better pc than ubersonic has by choosing parts that are better value for money, sure you may need to comprimise on quality in some area's but thats the beauty of the pc you can choose where to make those comprimises in order to get the most for your money.
anyway if i knew someone who was looking at an imac i'd show then something like the dell xps one 27inch, pretty much offers a similar spec to the imac but for about two thirds the price.
anyway if i knew someone who was looking at an imac i'd show then something like the dell xps one 27inch, pretty much offers a similar spec to the imac but for about two thirds the price.
The Dell one has Dells premium pixel replacement policy, does the DGM have that too? if not its easy to say it has the same panel but without the same support behind it it is not an equivalent.
The is no cut down version of OSX so I used the non cut down version of Windows.
I fully agree, but the point wasn't about if you could get a different spec PC with better performance than the iMac for the same price, it was about if Imacs were overpriced for what they are and if you could get a PC with the same/equal spec and features for a lot less. The cost difference between the iMac and an equal spec'd PC with the same quality of components and same features is negligible and easily cancelled out by the iMac being a AIW design.
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But it doesnt need to be that does it. You dont need professional if your a home user etc. PC's are meant to be more flexible in their options so creating an exact likeness is just silly.
The thing is though my point was in response to the guy who tried to make out that iMacs are more expensive than equivalent Windows systems, when in reality they are not, hence why I chose a windows build with equal or as close as possible to equal spec to the top 27" iMac.
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I missed that on the first read, but its an excellent example, aside from having an IB CPU and a weaker GPU its pretty much equal spec wise to the 2011 iMac and costs £350 less. However some of that money can be attributed to build quality and reliability, but overall it seems to mirror my results above, iMacs do not cost significantly more than equivalent Windows systems, despite what the haters like to say.
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You just proved they are though. I dont mean equivalent as in exactly same parts for no obvious reason. I mean equivalent performance or better for a lower price. Which can easily be done.
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If the change does happen, it won't be soon. The Intel/Apple partnership is too strong currently (although it is seriously weakening due to Intel vs. ARM and the Apple designed A6 chip).
Apple would be foolish NOT to occasionally consult what deal AMD can offer, if so they know what the alternative price is when they issue deals with Intel.
Apple would be foolish NOT to occasionally consult what deal AMD can offer, if so they know what the alternative price is when they issue deals with Intel.
have you looked at all at the dell xps one 27? its not an identical match but it is very close, and is considerably cheaper, the i5 version costs £650 less than the i5 imac.
Yeah I commented on that above, and its actually £350 less than the equivalent iMac its just on special offer atm. £350 is a lot less ill grant you but as a percentage of overall cost its not the massive margin some were making out earlier, plus its a Dell which means the build quality/reliability won't be as good
(personally though I would take the Dell if I was after an AIW.Yeah I commented on that above, and its actually £350 less than the equivalent iMac its just on special offer atm. £350 is a lot less ill grant you but as a percentage of overall cost its not the massive margin some were making out earlier, plus its a Dell which means the build quality/reliability won't be as good
fair point, i somehow ignored the fact its on offer lol, i dunno though even at full price its an extra 27% for the imac, to me thats significantly more expensive!, its going to be quite subjective though, personally i dont have a problem with people paying the extra if they feel its worth it to them, perhaps its a mistake to compare an imac with a pc too closely on spec alone as your paying the extra for a slightly different way of doing things with the mac. I mean why buy an expensive bmw when a ford will do, they could have exactly the same performance but many reasons to choose one over the other that dont feature on a spec sheet, not a great example i know lol.
on topic though i'd be very happy to see apple move to amd's apu's, anything that helps push opencl is good in my book, even though i'm not interested in buying any appler products only good could come from it in terms of helping move the software/hardware forward.
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Exactly. Apple products are what is known in the industry as the "retard alternative" - which highlights the stupidity of paying 80% more for a product which is inferior.
Charming.
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80% more!? Care to back that up with some of these things you may not be familiar with... they are called facts!
Personally if this is true, at least for the consumer it is good news. AMD need the business, Intel don't and we as consumers don't need an Intel monopoly.
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So I'm guessing they gonna let go half of core i5's processing to trade for a Trinity CPU with better graphic capability (huge downgrade on CPU, and moderate upgrade ob GPU) at a lower cost, and then still charge the the same premium (if not higher), and advertising by banging on the "most graphic capable iMac yet" and keep banging how much their old products' iGPU on their old Intel platform sucks and how much faster the new product is to lure the itards/isheep in. Just wait till them go around laughing at everyone that's not using a iMac but a PC using Intel CPU, and bragging how their AMD powered iMac is hundred times better
All the imacs i've seen have intel cpu and a dedicated amd gpu. i've seen a 21" with a 6750m and a 24" with a 6970m so how is going to amd cpus going to be anything but a massie downgrade to cpu power if they still use the same gpus! it doesn't make any sense. unless they do it on the mac book pros which all have integrated gfx by the look of it (except the retina ones) then way you say is probably true!
might not be a massive downgrade if the software uses opencl, infact could be an upgrade. But its a massive IF because its a lot of software that needs changed. The apu's have pretty fantastic processing power, but we just dont have that much software justnow to leverage it.
some interesting comparisons here of the difference opencl software makes on the apu's
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/photoshop-cs6-gimp-aftershot-pro,3208-13.html
some interesting comparisons here of the difference opencl software makes on the apu's
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/photoshop-cs6-gimp-aftershot-pro,3208-13.html
Most think it'll happen sooner rather than later with a custom ARM64 core.
This is a good read. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture