Ye olde classic Porsche to Mini to Ford hierarchy.
Estate or SUV?
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Ye olde classic Porsche to Mini to Ford hierarchy.
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This is a motoring forum and pistonhead types will generally go for the estate over the SUV. Chris Harris is a big advocate of this as well. The general population however is in the complete opposite direction.
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The estate may have more votes but as we know from 'other' votes in the UK that doesn't necessarily lead to the right answer
Andi.
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4x4 over both 
Yup, it's the the same with all the V10 engines moving to V8, V8's to straight sixes/V6's, straight sixes/V6's to four pots, four pots to three cylinders (like the latest Fiesta ST).
The enthusiasts of the world aren't happy about it, like the 1 Series owners "BUY THE LATEST M140i AS YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BUY A SIX POT SMALL HATCHBACK SOON!!!" brigade, but there's a very clear reason why can't. It's the exact same story with the lack of manual options, people aren't buying them in large numbers, so companies aren't selling them.
Pistonheads and OCUK motors are enthusiasts and most won't go for an SUV over an estate.
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Personally I prefer the SUV style, higher up, easier to put the small human in the back without bending down too much, also works well for my parents whom both struggle mobility wise, higher boot space to fit the dogs in the back and i prefer the look in general.
I also found that every time I've sat in the back of an estate, I've had little to no legroom (6ft 3). Not sure if I'm just unlucky or what but always felt very squashed in. I do think you get a much larger surface area in the boot though, generally far better economically too and they are nice to drive, just... different to an SUV and that's my preference. Although, my Discovery Sport is actually classed as an estate, but totally isnt lol.
I also found that every time I've sat in the back of an estate, I've had little to no legroom (6ft 3). Not sure if I'm just unlucky or what but always felt very squashed in. I do think you get a much larger surface area in the boot though, generally far better economically too and they are nice to drive, just... different to an SUV and that's my preference. Although, my Discovery Sport is actually classed as an estate, but totally isnt lol.
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One cylinder larger than the other two should balance out a 3 cyl boxerIt's all down to fudging emissions statsLuckily I don't think a 3 cylinder boxer engine is possible, so Subaru and Porsche might be safe for now
People do still want manuals to for sporty cars though, they hold their value better too.
Auto boxes these days can lead to quicker acceleration with torque multipliers and faster changes.
Andi.
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Um an A6 a Q5 and a Q7 are all around the same weight the A6 being in the middle only 100kg less than the Q7. Not quite sure what you think an Suv boot is like but mine is in line with tje bumper and my old back benefits from its height. As for better to drive, that depends on road conditions and traffic. My Q5 is great on smooth motorways, potholed A roads and rough country roads. It isn't quite as good on fast bendy roads but how many of those do you come across without traffic ?
Andi.
I'm having the same dilemma. Was planning on a new 3 or 5 series Touring but have been looking at the Ford Edge (I know the quality and driving experience won't be up to BMW standards etc etc) and some some unknown reason I'm drawn to them so got a test drive tomorrow. They just feel so much more spacious.
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It's completely true to be fair to him, just barmy
Lol yes but I also had a lambo and i8 on the side.
I’m moving to the country side next Week and will have lots of parking. So the plans is a focus for the misses a fun cars for day to day for me (911) and maybe a 5 series for long runs but that can wait.
Um...
Weight - a bit more than 100kg difference : 245kg
Audi A6 Avant 3.0 S Line : 1890kg
Audi Q7 3.0 S-Line : 2135kg
The Q5 is a class below the A6 i.e. it's based on the interior and dimensions of the A4.
For me, this extra weight and the higher costs (purchase price and running) mean an estate is the better option.
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Depends on engine for the precise weight but there is a very small percentage difference in weight. You probably couldn't tell the difference.
Andi.
Andi.
Depends on a few things.
Dog owner? Estate over SUV as easier for dog to jump into boot / less angle for dog ramp
Do lots of long journeys? SUV over estate for comfort reasons (though economy will likely be worse unless you drive at 60-65)
Are you incredibly tall? SUV for headroom !
Dog owner? Estate over SUV as easier for dog to jump into boot / less angle for dog ramp
Do lots of long journeys? SUV over estate for comfort reasons (though economy will likely be worse unless you drive at 60-65)
Are you incredibly tall? SUV for headroom !
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NVM
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Like for like engines the difference is about 250kg - I'm pretty sure you would notice that amount if I asked you to push it along and stop it
That's the same weight as 3 adults - I definitely notice when i'm driving with an extra 3 up.