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EU Referendum

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Stretch, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. JeditOjanen

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    That's not going to work quite so well when half of them advised for a European exit and the opposition can truthfully say that they were under no obligation to provide one. It's especially not going to work well when Theresa May has already said she'll end free movement at the cost of access to the single market, a decision that would be literal economic suicide.
     
  2. mid_gen

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    Just posturing, no way in hell she's going to turn down single market access, she's just setting up a negotiating position.

    Still don't see anyway we're going to get it without free movement....she's got to be seen to try though.
     
  3. JeditOjanen

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    Nope, she's already distancing herself from the disaster by giving every cabinet role that interacts with the EU to a Leave campaigner regardless of their competence for the post. Which in all cases is "none".
     
  4. Tefal

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    germans seem pretty desperate for financial access and tariff free trade for the uk
     
  5. Tefal

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    france has said theyre willing to negotiate on free movement
     
  6. Darujhistan

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    Do you mean like the economic suicide of not joining the Euro?

    Or like the economic suicides of Southern Europe inside the EU?
     
  7. JeditOjanen

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    I don't recall anyone worth listening to ever saying that. In fact it would have been much more damaging for the UK to join the Euro, because the pound was and even now to some degree still is stronger than the Euro. That's why we got the exception in the first place; the EU needed the added strength of Britain, but we refused to give it if it meant giving up our currency independence.
     
  8. wb2816

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    The European Union has changed enormously over the last decades. EU policy diminished British influence and sovereignty. So the decision to withdraw from EU is historic truly. And we can only suppose what will happen next. Economically GB will suffer some time. It’s difficult to enter single market. The exit will cut growth and hurt state economic centers.
    About the EU future. I think that this organization have no hope to prosperity and future at all.
     
  9. Usher

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    It was only a matter of time before they would have decreed that the UK must start driving on the right
     
  10. Vonhelmet

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    You're deranged.
     
  11. Darujhistan

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    He was rich anyway, he's lost because his political reputation and legacy are now completely ruined.
     
  12. Vonhelmet

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    He's not lost anything that he needs. He's not lost in any meaningful sense. Not even close.
     
  13. JeditOjanen

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    Rich people don't care about what they need, only about what they want. Cameron wanted to secure his legacy as a great man of politics, but instead he is going to be remembered as the worst Prime Minister in history - the man who crashed the UK economy in a failed attempt to humiliate his own back bench. He has lost.
     
  14. Vonhelmet

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    I'm fairly certain he'll get over it.
     
  15. do_ron_ron

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    Maybe but all countries have to agree and I cannot see Poland and Bulgaria being too keen.
     
  16. Tefal

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    that would be the Poland that the EU is currently taking actions to remove the voting rights of?
     
  17. do_ron_ron

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    As it is in the setup of EU I cannot see how they can remove any countries right to agree/veto any decision. To do so would spell the end of the EU, at least in its current format.
     
  18. Tefal

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    They're doing it under article 7, they've already warned both Poland and hungry, and but with poland saying they'd veto a move to block hungry the eu parliment is looking at getting its own powers to do it too.

    or they'll block both at once

     
  19. Darujhistan

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    What?

    It was impossible to lose what he 'needs' he was already hugely rich. He's lost his political legacy that's all he had to lose, and he lost it.
     
  20. Darujhistan

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    Looks like the EU is at it again, they really don't like democracy at all.

    We knew...