Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

[dalehitchy1]

Cant believe this is where the discussion has ended up lol.

Anything to boost their ego.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Not continuing this on as you're saying things completely different now to your original point which is what I've seen you do multiple times and it carries on for page after page.

 

[Trusty]

Lefties crying lol

It's really not hard to get your head round lads

 

[cheesyboy]

huh? how does that not support brain chemisty?

Just do the maths, physical men who are disgusted easier. It's a classical case of the leaders in the group. A rat which is 10% bigger than it's counter part will win 90% of fights, the people who won fights were the leaders, add in the fear aspect of looking on the horizon for enemies and you have leaders who are looking out for the group.

How's 'looking out for the group' not a leftist standpoint? Sounds a bit commie to me - you a secret red?

 

[Trusty]

How's 'looking out for the group' not a leftist standpoint? Sounds a bit commie to me - you a secret red?

It's a blend isn't it, its not one extreme to the other. For example, within Chimps, the alpha male who is tyrannical and not thinking about the group will have his nuts and skin ripped off, he'll be dead, that's the end of that blood line. The one that caters to the group, looks after the females, builds a male support group will be the leader. This is all basic stuff that translates over to humans a huge amount, naturally we are more complicated though

 

[Felon]

This whole conversation has gone very weird.

 

[dalehitchy1]

Why do I get the feeling Trusty is a very insecure person and votes tories because he wants to feel strong (and stable)

Cant believe this is being discussed. Rofl. Relating how much one can bench to voting. Jesus.......

 

[Trusty]

I am very insecure at times, it's how i grow.

 

[cheesyboy]

It's a blend isn't it, its not one extreme to the other. For example, within Chimps, the alpha male who is tyrannical and not thinking about the group will have his nuts and skin ripped off, he'll be dead, that's the end of that blood line. The one that caters to the group, looks after the females, builds a male support group will be the leader. This is all basic stuff that translates over to humans a huge amount, naturally we are more complicated though

But remember, the study actually said that strong men are more likely to favour politics that represent their own self interest. They're less likely to do things 'for the group', unless the group's benefit is also to their own benefit.

 

[grudas]

Is there any research on gym bunnies who go there everyday in correlation to their IQ levels?

I unfortunately watched Love island yesterday and noticed the physically fit seemed dumb

Are you trying to say that people who workout are dumb ?

What has this thread turned into ? Reminds of a UK's government.

 

[h4rm0ny]

This report is obviously worthless and extremely inaccurate. According to this, Labour won 21% more of the popular vote than the Conservatives.
People LIE about who they vote for.

You haven't read the chart correctly. As far as I can see it's a proportionate breakdown of each group and doesn't say anything about absolute numbers. 100% of 18-19 year olds could vote Labour but if 18-19 year olds comprise 1% of the total voters, that doesn't mean Labour would win 100% of the popular vote.

 

[dalehitchy1]

Are you trying to say that people who workout are dumb ?

What has this thread turned into ? Reminds of a UK's government.

No I'm not I was merely pointing out the ridiculousness of trusty's statement by using another ridiculous statement. It was sarcasm. He was linking those who workout and can bench more to being right wing.

I think things are being stereotyped (the youth, the elderly, left wing, the less strong) and its so stupid.

 

[Trusty]

My statements aren't ridiculous, if you do a lot of reading on political stance and brain chemistry, it's a quite obvious the picture that get's built.

 

[McGray]

Spoiler

 

[h4rm0ny]

Right wingers are more fearful of the world than left-wingers. Similarly gym-bunnies are more fearful of the world so resort to becoming physically strong.

Looking at the world today, fear seems a pretty sensible reaction. And making oneself stronger in response to perceived threats seems laudable, to me.

One could as likely say that Left wingers seek safety in numbers and group identity and it would be as accurate and as loaded a phrasing. I think there is some truth to this - those who accept personal responsibility and strive to be able to stand alone are more sympathetic to individualist philosophies which Right Wing tends to be in an economic and welfare sense. Whereas others seek to mitigate their fears through demanding the state be a protective, parental substitute.

Everyone is afraid at some point. It's a question of how you deal with it.

 

[h4rm0ny]

But remember, the study actually said that strong men are more likely to favour politics that represent their own self interest. They're less likely to do things 'for the group', unless the group's benefit is also to their own benefit.

Logically this translates into stronger men who are unsuccessful tending to Left Wing and stronger men who are successful tending to Right Wing. Of course how significant this is as a factor compared to much larger factors such as family background, social group and actual interest in politics and awareness of history, is pretty dubious.

 

[Trusty]

Wonder who the leader of the Lib Dem's will be now..

 

[cheesyboy]

Logically this translates into stronger men who are unsuccessful tending to Left Wing and stronger men who are successful tending to Right Wing. Of course how significant this is as a factor compared to much larger factors such as family background, social group and actual interest in politics and awareness of history, is pretty dubious.

That's exactly what the study found - see my earlier link.

And, yes, likely that other factors will be more significant on a causation level. As previously mentioned, I would imagine self-interest generally is a correlation with 'self-improvement' through going to the gym, rather than strength being a cause of political self-interest.

 

[cheesyboy]

Looking at the world today, fear seems a pretty sensible reaction. And making oneself stronger in response to perceived threats seems laudable, to me.

One could as likely say that Left wingers seek safety in numbers and group identity and it would be as accurate and as loaded a phrasing. I think there is some truth to this - those who accept personal responsibility and strive to be able to stand alone are more sympathetic to individualist philosophies which Right Wing tends to be in an economic and welfare sense. Whereas others seek to mitigate their fears through demanding the state be a protective, parental substitute.

Everyone is afraid at some point. It's a question of how you deal with it.

There are studies which show correlation between fear response and political alignment.

Left wingers tend to be less fearful, meaning they tend to be less insular in how they think about politics. It's less about the self and more about the whole. It's not their response to fear: it's that they suffer less fear.

 

[Irish_Tom]

You haven't read the chart correctly. As far as I can see it's a proportionate breakdown of each group and doesn't say anything about absolute numbers. 100% of 18-19 year olds could vote Labour but if 18-19 year olds comprise 1% of the total voters, that doesn't mean Labour would win 100% of the popular vote.

Thank you. I was just about to say this myself.