Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%
  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%
  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%

  • Total voters
    1,097
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I'd be surprised if the deal was any more formal then we will vote for your queens speech in exchange for single market membership, after that, you are on your own. The conservatives can say the lib dems destroyed hard brexit and likewise the lib dems can say we saved you from hard brexit and a bad DUP deal.

don't get my hopes up like that :eek:
 
If the Lib Dems sacrificed themselves for a soft Brexit I'd vote for them again.

Seems like this is where the next Lib Dem leader ought to step up and offer some moral courage/do the right thing rather than worry about potential impact on votes further down the line.
 
That's the trouble with our party politics. It's all about who's best at winning a popularity contest and has very little to do with who might be good at running the country.
 
Why do you think she won't do these things? I'll tell you why, because people with views like you would happily drop their pants, do a poo and throw it in her face for no reason other than her being a Conservative.

Then maybe she should actually be a strong and stable leader and not care about what people think, if she was helping out a shelter, I'd be praising her.

Unfortunately she proves her true self instead.
 
Why do you think she won't do these things? I'll tell you why, because people with views like you would happily drop their pants, do a poo and throw it in her face for no reason other than her being a Conservative.

Diddums, the leader who took to office claiming to have a goal to help the just about managing everyman family's, whilst simultaneously doing anything but helping them now has a visible issue with the general public and suddenly decides actually talking to some of the humans who her horrendous decisions have affected is now important?

Apparently it's everyone else's fault that May has avoided the rank and file public like the plague, perhaps if you clearly are as genuine as "green Dave's" bike ride to number 10/get rid of that green ****, people start to think a bit of poo in the moosh wouldn't be a bad idea?
 
https://order-order.com/2017/06/15/labour-call-for-properties-owned-by-rich-to-be-requisitioned/
Labour calling for expensive homes to be "requisitioned". I take it we've all seen Dr Zhivago and know what happens in a socialist utopia?

it is nuts... the government has already stated they will rehouse people within the borough (though tbh.. I still think a London wide policy would be far more sensible in the long run) - this certainly doesn't mean the state needs to confiscate private property
 
Actually housing with no obvious ownership is a serious issue in many regions, it can destroy the value/be a hazard to neighbouring property and in high density situations prevent a legitimate owner/tenant from living there.

then ramp up taxes in general on under occupied housing - you don't just confiscate property in a particular area on a whim because something bad happened nearby
 
then ramp up taxes in general on under occupied housing - you don't just confiscate property in a particular area on a whim because something bad happened nearby
Both are regulatory interventions, I'm opposed to neither of those however the current system is clearly inadequate!
 
then ramp up taxes in general on under occupied housing - you don't just confiscate property in a particular area on a whim because something bad happened nearby
who said anything about any of that? Remember tweets are small, not fleshed out ideas. On top of that, there's already a system in place to force the sale of empty properties.
Rather than biased new sources which scorza loves, how about hearing what they actually mean and how it would be implemented.
 
Both are regulatory interventions, I'm opposed to neither of those however the current system is clearly inadequate!

no one is taxation applied to all who fall within the criteria the other is politicians targeting individuals in a particular area unnecessarily in order to score political points, the latter would be heavily contested in courts and likely unworkable
 
Populist mobs would scare the crap out of most sane people. I think she's doing the correct thing in avoiding "normal" people in uncontrolled environments, it was only last year a politician was gunned down.

Are you really trying to justify a PM's decision to campaign in "staged" public meetings, by mentioning the murder of Jo Cox by a right wing nutter?
 
no one is taxation applied to all who fall within the criteria the other is politicians targeting individuals in a particular area unnecessarily in order to score political points, the latter would be heavily contested in courts and likely unworkable

Sorry can you link me to detail of either of the planned state interventions so I can make an unbiased evaluation?
 
who said anything about any of that? Remember tweets are small, not fleshed out ideas. On top of that, there's already a system in place to force the sale of empty properties.
Rather than biased new sources which scorza loves, how about hearing what they actually mean and how it would be implemented.

I don't have an issue with hearing what they mean... but at the moment I'm commenting on the tweets

Sorry can you link me to detail of either of the planned state interventions so I can make an unbiased evaluation?

you're not making any sense - you're well aware of what is being discussed re: the two tweets and a suggestion by myself
 
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