Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%
  • Total voters
    1,097
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dowie said:
I've not ignored all meanings...you're still trying to split hairs here and completely failing, the meanings of the world you quoted support exactly the same thing...is this some sort of reading comprehension issue for you?
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so a written request is the same as confiscating, is it?
 
dowie said:
you really are keen to try and get into a semantics argument here... I doubt very much the tweets meant they wanted to send a polite letter requesting the sale of the house
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But you have personally accepted that there is a serious issue and that there is currently no effective regulation in place?
 
dowie said:
you really are keen to try and get into a stupid semantics argument here... I doubt very much the tweets meant they merely wanted to send a polite letter requesting the sale of the house
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So you are now admitting you have no idea what they mean or how it would work. What a surprise.
 
Glaucus said:
So you are now admitting you have no idea what they mean or how it would work. What a surprise.
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nope, I've been quite clear from the start on the intent/meaning - on the other hand you're trying to cherry pick a definition of a world that clearly doesn't fit in context in order to make some stupid semantics argument... over several posts when the meaning/intent was perfectly clear
 
stewski said:
You tell me, you were the one making up a (non existent) tax for the issue, that you claim is a far better state intervention than requisitioning?
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I think you'll find that council tax is very real. And yes I do think that increasing taxes to deal with the issues of under occupancy is preferable to confiscating or 'requisitioning' private property on a whim because something bad happened nearby.

I believe this is what I've already stated.. prior to the silly semantics argument by the other poster.

I'm still not sure what you're referring to re: no effective regulation in place?
 
dowie said:
nope, I've been quite clear from the start on the intent/meaning - on the other hand you're trying to cherry pick a definition of a world that clearly doesn't fit in context in order to make some stupid semantics argument... over several posts when the meaning/intent was perfectly clear
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not in the least, you have been clear from the start that you have added your own bias, whilst saying you haven't. I on the other hand have said you can't take any meaning on it from a single sentence.

could be anywhere from a request and financial compensation, for short-term housing while they sort out the mess and find new shelter, to take the houses away, no option no compensation. Or anything in between. Yet you have gone for a single meaning.

This is why tweets shouldn't be used as often they are, they do not convey meaning well at all. There's just not enough letters.
 
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stewski said:
Actually housing with no obvious ownership is a serious issue in many regions, it can destroy the value/be a hazard to neighbouring property and in high density situations prevent a legitimate owner/tenant from living there.
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dowie said:
then ramp up taxes in general on under occupied housing - you don't just confiscate property in a particular area on a whim because something bad happened nearby
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So again, do you personally agree with me that the issue of unoccupied housing is real and that the current regulation is inadequate?

As I said, state requisitions, forced sales, increased taxation all possible solutions none of which am I wed to (unlike you apparently).
 
stewski said:
So again, do you personally agree with me that the issue of unoccupied housing is real and that the current regulation is inadequate?

As I said, state requisitions, forced sales, increased taxation all possible solutions none of which am I wed to (unlike you apparently).
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depends what regulation you're referring to? You've read my previous answer where I've suggested that under occupancy is bad and that we should increase taxation to deal with it - i.e. council tax?

I've posted that opinion three times now.
 
dowie said:
depends what regulation you're referring to? You've read my previous answer where I've suggested that under occupancy is bad and that we should increase taxation to deal with it - i.e. council tax?

I've posted that opinion three times now.
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I asked do you agree (having posted your idea to increase council tax for under occupied housing) that the issue is serious and that current regulation is inadequate.

You'd make a mediocre Tory PM candidate yourself at this rate :)

"But did you threaten to over rule him?"
 
stewski said:
I asked do you agree (having posted your idea to increase council tax for under occupied housing) that the issue is serious and that current regulation is inadequate.

You'd make a mediocre Tory PM candidate yourself at this rate :)
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So you're agreeing with me then?

I've stated three times that under occupancy is bad, I don't think that is avoiding anything - it is pretty clear.

What isn't clear is what regulations you're referring to? I believe I've asked you that a few times?
 
dowie said:
given that I've answered your question and you've dodged mine it seems to be the other way around :p
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Did you reply to my quote, which I have re quoted with your own suggestion of a new tax, yes or no?
Did you suggest that tax even though you believe there is no problem, or do you accept that there is a problem and that current regulation is inadequate?

I'm not obliged to list all housing regulations in the UK for you to be able to answer it clearly will follow from you accepting the problem that the current state regulation is inadequate and you did threaten to overrule him :)
 
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