Explain what a berk my mate is for me please?

FatRakoon

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Right, I think I have found the ultimate in ignorance.

I thought I was bad, but get this...

My mate has just bought himself a massive 128GB SSD Card.

He has put it into his External Case, and used the 500GB From that in his PC.

He now argues that his PC is much faster because of it.

I am telling him that he has just gone from a knackered old 80GB to a 500GB and THATS why his PC is also feelign faster, but if he used the SSD in his PC, it would be much much faster still!

He wont accept it.

I also told him that because the USB is a limiting factor with external drives like that, that there will be no noticable difference between the SSD and the 500 or even the old 80GB, but again, he wont have it.

I told him to at least try my way but he wont.

Can anyone else help me out here.

I mean, come on... Is anyone really that much of an idiot to buy an SSD to use as an external USB drive FFS?
 
ROFL

I dont know much about SSD's apart from they are blazing fast compared to a mechanical HDD.

You need to tell him to do some HDD benchmarking and maybe that will convince him :p

If that dont you should tell him to pass me on his SSD lol.
 
Sometimes you just have to accept that some people are simply the kind that don't want to share their orgasms with anyone else.......;)

It seems your friend is one of those types.
 
Dear FatRakoon's mate,

Please for the love of god install the SSD as the primary drive (ie in the case, via a SATA connection, with the OS installed on it). The main benefit of an SSD is super quick response time (over 10x faster than a standard mechanical hard disk drive) and random read/write speeds that dwarf those of even the fastest mechanical hard disks.

This is because an SSD is fully solid-state and doesn't rely on spinning disks and moving read/write heads to transfer data.

If you use the SSD as the OS, then the system will boot up much faster, applications will open much faster and many general tasks in general will feel faster because your computing performance is no longer limited by a spinning disk being written to and read from.

If you had an old 80GB HDD and upgraded to a modern 500GB HDD then this will feel like a performance boost - sure. You are running a clean copy of windows and modern disks are a fair bit faster than the old ones (maybe 2-3X, depending on the disks in question). However, if you went to an SSD - the raw speed increase is of the order of over 10X in applications that use lots of small files (like the OS).


Put it this way - you don't lose much by giving it a go - switching the SSD over to a SATA connection, backing up the SSD, installing windows onto it in with a new format and having a quick go will take around 30 minutes. Then if you want to use it as a USB drive again - then that is simple to re-instate.
 
The bottom line is that the OP's friend's rig is not limited by the speed of USB connects or by the speed of spinning platters or read/write heads. It is limited by closed-mindedness. In my experience logic is ineffective at picking such locks.
 
I am telling him that he has just gone from a knackered old 80GB to a 500GB and THATS why his PC is also feelign faster, but if he used the SSD in his PC, it would be much much faster still!
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If you've already told him that, there's not much more we can do.

You could prove your point by getting him to unplug the External SSD.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

I will get him to read these and let it go from there.

I wont go into too much cos he is alrady not happy with me cos he thinks that I am being nasty to him, but seriously... That much stupid, is painful.
 
just tell him to go read reviews then he'll understand why ssd's are used as boot drives and not for media storage. if he cant manage that then leave him to it. a bunch of nobodys on a nothing forum isnt going to do much to convince him, i'm sure.
 
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Why on earth did he buy an SSD in the first place? Did he think that because it was expensive it was good for an external drive? Still makes little sense.

It's his money at the end of the day. If he doesn't want to recognise that SSDs are for OS drives and nothing else, then let him be ignorant.
 
USB2 is limited to around 30-35MB/s transfer rate, any hard drive on the market is fine for the job of a backup drive, since they call all transfer at least 60mb/s (probably more towards 100MB/s)

Doesn't matter what type of hard drive you put in the external box, it'll be limited to 35 tops.

The SSD can probably read at around 250+ MB/s, the 500GB drive I'd guess 75MB/s. The old 80GB drive, probably 40-50MB/s.

That is why the pc feels faster, the main hard drive is now twice as fast. Switch to the SSD as the main drive and it'll be twice as fast again.


Drive size doesn't affect speed


Break it down like that, will probably work better than calling him names :D
 
sas30uk said:
ROFL

I dont know much about SSD's apart from they are blazing fast compared to a mechanical HDD.

You need to tell him to do some HDD benchmarking and maybe that will convince him :p

If that dont you should tell him to pass me on his SSD lol.
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if you need a benchmark to tell you its faster its not worth the upgrade...
 
Ask to borrow it and swap it out for a 160gb 2.5" hdd and say you've managed to increase the capacity. If he is that much of an idiot, he'll never know. :p


Just kidding. lol :D
 
Show him how to run Windows Experience Index then laugh at his 5.9 disk transfer rate!
 
I will sell him a ONE TERABYTE harddrive for his SSD. If he believes it is truly faster?

Why don't you offer him that deal? Then you'll truly find out if he's just lazy and uninterested or actually stupid.
 
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