Facebook and opt-out apps, ridiculous?

lowrider007 said:
Am I talking about you personally?

That's the problem with many people on the internet, they only think in absolutes, I've said a number of times now that there are some people I believe use FB productively to engage in real social activity, if you are one of them then I'm not referring to you am I.

The problem is some people here hate FB, myself included, we're not insulting anyone personally but you've taken it upon yourself to be offended, we are the 'haters', you are the 'defenders' in seems lol, could be a anime in there somewhere.
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Which is it a productive tool or not? It can't be both like you proclaim.
Either it's a tool that some don't use properly, or it is a usefull tool and kills 99% of your argument.
It's not a problem with me thinking it absolute, it's a problem in your opinions, not stacking up and contradicting each other.
 
Glaucus said:
Which is it a productive tool or not? It can't be both like you proclaim.
Either it's a tool that some don't use properly, or it is a usefull tool and kills 99% of your argument.
It's not a problem with me thinking it absolute, it's a problem in your opinions, not stacking up and contradicting each other.
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The 'tool' as you refer to it can be used as either, once again your thinking in absolutes, it doesn't have to be one or the other which is what your saying above, it's down to how people use it, 'but', even though as a tool it can be classified as a 'neutral' part of the equation, like a gun in a crime/defence, it can still provide grounds to incite certain types of behaviours, when a service or 'tool' like FB is introduced into society being that it is as popular as it is does make an impact, it provides a means and avenue imo for many people to forgo conventional means of communication and social activity's, I dislike that it provides a service for that and I dislike the impact it has had on society as a whole.

Now you most probably disagree which is great, I have no problem with that, but I've not insulted anyone on here at all, all I've done is be open about is my hate of Facebook, yet you and others on here have chosen to be offended personally, I've actually been quite civil.
 
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I wasn't talking about how people use it, so yes it is an absolute. Is it a tool or just rubbish?
A tool is a tool, regardless of how peoplre use it
It's plainly a tool you can use how you like.
It's I'd very much you with the one opinion fits everything. You don't like absolutes perhaps go back and look at your comments.
 
G|mp said:
You then implied that I was insulting you whilst knowing nothing about you, when in reality I know more about your friends than you do mine, (you post threads going into detail of how **** your friends are) your 'friend' wanted to beat you up over a wifi password, then I remembered that you struggle to find different couloured pasta so I decided against having a reasonable discussion with you :)
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Once again I will tell you that in that particular instance it was a 'past' friend from many years ago that coincidently ended up becoming my neighbour, who at the time I found out had just lost his father and his mum had been diagnosed with terminal cancer, it was a complicated scenario, you can't always choose to have what you may classify as good friends, life is not that simple as you are fully aware, people change, we change.

"then I remembered that you struggle to find different coloured pasta so I decided against having a reasonable discussion with you"

Is it really so hard for you have have a discussion without the need to be insulting in some way? Green spaghetti is actually very hard to find, it used to be sold in every major supermarket, not any more, there is not one shop in the whole of Cornwall that sells it as far as I know.

Anyway thanks for visiting my history.

Glaucus said:
I wasn't talking about how people use it, so yes it is an absolute. Is it a tool or just rubbish?
A tool is a tool, regardless of how peoplre use it
It's plainly a tool you can use how you like.
It's I'd very much you with the one opinion fits everything. You don't like absolutes perhaps go back and look at your comments.
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I agree with the classification of FB as a tool, a tool which I don't like, like guns can be classified as a tool, I don't like them either even though it's down to the person using 'said' tool.
 
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lowrider007 said:
"then I remembered that you struggle to find different coloured pasta so I decided against having a reasonable discussion with you"

Is it really so hard for you have have a discussion without the need to be insulting in some way? Green spaghetti is actually very hard to find, it used to be sold in every major supermarket, there is not one shop in the whole of Cornwall that sells it as far as I know.

Anyway thanks for visiting my history.
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I didn't visit your history, I just have a good memory.

How is that insulting? I made a reasonable decision to not continue arguing with you as it would be fruitless.

This is where I walk away as it will be pointless :)
 
lowrider007 said:
I agree with the classification of FB as a tool, a tool which I don't like, like guns can be classified as a tool, I don't like them either even though it's down the the person using 'said' tool.
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There we go, so how can a tool be antisocial, when it's the total opposite. I can just jump on the phone to some one abroad, I can't easily send photos on a phone, I can't easily organize big trips/events on a phone. I can do all this on FB.

Once you accept Facebook, is not what you thought it was. It isn't the normal users who you aren't even friends with. Your it's rubbish and anti social stances fall to bits.
As certain groups of users does not change the tool.
 
I looked after to make sure you were indeed the person I was thinking of.

There was plenty I more I could have ripped you about ;) I was being nice :)
 
Glaucus said:
There we go, so how can a tool be antisocial, when it's the total opposite. I can just jump on the phone to some one abroad, I can't easily send photos on a phone, I can't easily organize big trips/events on a phone. I can do all this on FB.

Once you accept Facebook, is not what you thought it was. It isn't the normal users who you aren't even friends with. Your it's rubbish and anti social stances fall to bits.
As certain groups of users does not change the tool.
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Your failing to understand my argument and I don't feel it's because I haven't explained myself well enough, I even provided a simple analogy with regards to referring to guns as a tool, a tool which I dislike, just as I dislike FB as a tool, the tool itself can't be antisocial but it can provide the means for antisocial behaviour, I just don't like the service FB provides, is it really that hard to accept.

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I should have edited this in with the last post sorry.
 
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toon_mad said:
Maybe because I can spend my time more productively then waste my time constantly updating and broadcasting myself for all to see.
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And yet you spend your time on OCUK Facebook.
The only difference between Facebook and OCUK is that I actually know people on Facebook so I'm more of a sad git coming here.
Facebook is a wonderful tool if you know how to use it.
 
Dimple said:
And yet you spend your time on OCUK Facebook.
The only difference between Facebook and OCUK is that I actually know people on Facebook so I'm more of a sad git coming here.
Facebook is a wonderful tool if you know how to use it.
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I would hardly say I spend my time in the forums though, and even if I did there is a huge difference:

1. I don't have photos of myself put up here for all to see.
2. no one can approach or find me by my real name unless I told them where to find me.
3. I don't have stupid status updates or the means to update my activities here on a regular basis.
4. I don't have to worry about accepting or blocking people trying to reach me.
5. Getting in touch with people you lost contact with is nonsense. If they were that important to begin with I would'nt of lost contact with them in the first place.

I fail to see how these social media sites are so popular. We lived without them once upon a time, I can continue to live without them and not get stressed out over it.

Also I am not sure how you can call this forum OCUK Facebook considering you don't update your status or broadcast yourself to people in a ego trip way.

I won't say anymore on this, I think it's rubbish and sad whichever way you look at it.
 
G|mp said:
Friends of friends you can have a bit of banter with?

How strange, wouldn't you prefer to have met someone briefly and to then not involve the 'anti-social network' and just call them up out of the blue?

Far more sociable!
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Friends of friends? I didn't say that. I said friends who could live a long way away or groups of people I am associated with or have similar interests too (in that sense no different to this forum.....)
 
toon_mad said:
1. I don't have photos of myself put up here for all to see.
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But you can do with our own OCUK post a picture of yourself thread

toon_mad said:
2. no one can approach or find me by my real name unless I told them where to find me.
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You can be anonymous on Facebook, you don't know how to use it.

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3. I don't have stupid status updates or the means to update my activities here on a regular basis.
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But you can do if you want. Many people update on here what they are getting up to - it's called 'Making a thread' or 'Posting in a thread'.


toon_mad said:
4. I don't have to worry about accepting or blocking people trying to reach me.
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What is there to worry about?

toon_mad said:
5. Getting in touch with people you lost contact with is nonsense. If they were that important to begin with I would'nt of lost contact with them in the first place.
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I have worked with 1000s & 1000s of people over the years and it's great when somebody gets in touch.
You must be a right miserable individual.

toon_mad said:
I fail to see how these social media sites are so popular. We lived without them once upon a time, I can continue to live without them and not get stressed out over it.
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I've just been on a Facebook page dedicated to old Staffordshire musicians where some of them have moved away from the area.
We're all on there reminiscing just like we do on OCUK.
I've got zero chance of seeing some of these people in real life (just like OCUK) but hey, I'll tell them to bugger off because they can't be that important.

toon_mad said:
Also I am not sure how you can call this forum OCUK Facebook considering you don't update your status or broadcast yourself to people in a ego trip way.
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But you can do and many people do - including myself.
The Sports forums are dedicated to people updating their status and so are the General Hardware forums about what they've bought.

OCUK is a Social Media site whether you like it or not.
 
Morba said:
Friends of friends? I didn't say that. I said friends who could live a long way away or groups of people I am associated with or have similar interests too (in that sense no different to this forum.....)
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I was agreeing with you whilst simultaneously being sarcastic regarding another poster :)
 
toon_mad said:
I would hardly say I spend my time in the forums though, and even if I did there is a huge difference:

1. I don't have photos of myself put up here for all to see.
2. no one can approach or find me by my real name unless I told them where to find me.
3. I don't have stupid status updates or the means to update my activities here on a regular basis.
4. I don't have to worry about accepting or blocking people trying to reach me.
5. Getting in touch with people you lost contact with is nonsense. If they were that important to begin with I would'nt of lost contact with them in the first place.

I fail to see how these social media sites are so popular. We lived without them once upon a time, I can continue to live without them and not get stressed out over it.

Also I am not sure how you can call this forum OCUK Facebook considering you don't update your status or broadcast yourself to people in a ego trip way.

I won't say anymore on this, I think it's rubbish and sad whichever way you look at it.
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My god, You sound like a right miserable so and so lol.

Facebook is a tool to be used as an individual wants. Whats your problem? You dont even use it!? Just because its popular doesnt make it a bandwagon to be jumped on. Did you ever think maybe it's popular because it's actually a good way to keep in contact with friends or associates?

Yes I'm aware we got on fine without it, But so what? It's here now, we shouldnt use it because its good at what it does and everyone uses it? haha

It has its faults, but 99% of them can be fixed in a few minutes if you know what you're doing.'privacy' 'apps' 'your searchable content'
 
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