I started a thread in the general hardware about a friend who is building a ultra budget pc for used parts for his sons first gaming PC. He has been talking to someone who is selling a FX8350 and 990FX sabertooth R2.0, who is asking for 60 each. That seems like a fair price to me, but i wanted to ask what you guys think?
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Fair price for 2nd hand FX series?
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i know people who are still using the FX chips, i was until the release of Ryzen but personally, given the price of the new ryzen 3's id spend that little bit more and go for that. Depending on how uber budget hes going, the new AMD APU's seem to be getting great reviews.
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Be better off buying an R3 brand new with a board.
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The prices are fairly reasonable, however it has probably been overclocked to within an inch of its life at least once (who would not?).
However with Ryzen there is a DDR4 outlay to consider.
I know, i mentioned this to him this morning, but he likes to re-use and make new stuff out of old rubbish. So it seems, he is trying to do the same with the PC. Ryzen 3 seems to be a great buy at the moment, i am considering it for my up coming build, just waiting for the GPU prices to come back down if not it will be 1050ti until they do.
I know they seem reasonable, thats a risk with buying 2nd hand you don't know what they have been used for.
That was one of his reasons for buying 2nd hand, the cost of ram at the mo DDR 4 is around £140 for 2x8GB. When he can get the same DDR3 for £50?
Well I sold my FX 8320 with stock cooler, Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC1600 Ram, 8gb in total, Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 AM3+ Motherboard and Geforce 6200 512mb for £130 last month.
So In my eyes no, not if its £120 for CPU and motherboard bundle only.
Is the PC intended to be kept for a fair while with gaming being a core requirement? For what is a small saving in the scheme of the full build I wouldn't go with the less suitable setup with no worthwhile upgrade options.
A B350 board will have no trouble handling a higher core count, it's an easy upgrade to more cores with higher IPC and higher clockspeeds with Zen2 in a couple of years or you can go second hand and re-use older Zen1 as I see a lot upgrading once out. Go with 8GB ram for now and throw in another 8GB in the system down the line as needed.
A B350 board will have no trouble handling a higher core count, it's an easy upgrade to more cores with higher IPC and higher clockspeeds with Zen2 in a couple of years or you can go second hand and re-use older Zen1 as I see a lot upgrading once out. Go with 8GB ram for now and throw in another 8GB in the system down the line as needed.
^^ this - B350 with Ryzen 1200 and 8gb ram, gives you great upgrade path for the future
Agreed.
I still kept my other 8320 because its in my server for virtualization which its still a beast at doing.
He doesn’t want to spend to much in case his son doesn’t get on with PC gaming he hasn’t lost out on to much, he is willing to build a good system later on if needed. So i can see why he might be considering this i almost went down this line last year myself. I almost brought FX series parts from brother in law as i had used them in the past. But thanks to this forum i decided to wait for Ryzen and will most likely do as you have said myself.
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No its just the CPU and mother board. The seller was trying to offer him an AIO for another £60, what i said no to as you can get air coolers new for £20 if he wanted. I told him last night he buys them not to pay more than £100.00 and that he should really look at Ryzen 3 giving him a upgrade path if his boy like it, making it cheaper in the long run.
Hmm that isn't quite true. They are better than they have ever been, and if gaming takes to more threads (it will) then it'll still be a decent gaming chip. Performance is not what would put me off. That would be heat and power consumption. I dread to think how much juice it would pull compared to a Pentium.
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Well, it is true. It runs OK in some games and then disastrously in some games. In some games it is actually inferior to Skylake Pentium, even those that eat up clockspeed + number of cores/threads.
The FX don't do well at BF1 for example, a game that loves cores, and they plain suck at Fallout 4, another CPU heavy game which likes cores/threads.
I wouldn't bother. For the same money you could get a 2nd hand S1155 board and a decent Ivybridge i5....not to mention AM3 is a totally dead end socket, even an old S1155 offers may more longevity (even 2nd gen i7's are pretty good for the latest CPU intensive games)
Or else get a G4560+B250M (OK now and fully upgradable) or stump up for a Ryzen 3 setup.
FX is dead and unless you got it for a ridiculously cheap price I wouldn't bother personally. I would not pay more than €100/£80-90 at best. He'll just end up having to replace the entire board/cpu/ram in a year or two regardless, it's a waste.
Especially when you can get a vastly superior i5/board combo for the same money or less which will offer better longevity to boot.
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FO4 is primarily limited by single core performance - it will use a reasonable amount of threads,but you will find one or two cores pushed significantly more than others. Its no wonder when the Creation engine has its roots in the Gamebryo engine from the early 90s. Bethesda probably tacked on multi-threading due to wanting it to run on consoles,but the engine needs to be retired now.
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OP,that is not a bad price considering the motherboard is excellent,but if I were you I would rather gather a Ryzen 3 1200,and a cheaper B350 motherboard.
Ryzen has a great upgrade path.
I would also have said the G4560 but the Core i7 7700k is very expensive.
In that sense,Coffee Lake seems better,although it won't be out for a few months.
Edit!!
OP,that is not a bad price considering the motherboard is excellent,but if I were you I would rather gather a Ryzen 3 1200,and a cheaper B350 motherboard.
Ryzen has a great upgrade path.
I would also have said the G4560 but the Core i7 7700k is very expensive.
In that sense,Coffee Lake seems better,although it won't be out for a few months.