Far right terror is the "fastest growing" threat to the UK

[Caracus2k]

The Tories under Churchill in 1945 had a manifesto promising a universal health care system and welfare as well

(if only because they knew they would need to offer such things to compete)

The conservatives are "right wing"

We're talking about extreme right wing ideology, not someone who thinks immigration is a bit of an issue.

Wonder whether Lauren Southern, rather outrageously arrested and detained under a terrorism act, counted in the figures for 'right wing terrorists'.

His arrest under the terroist act is a rather separate matter as to whether or not he should be have been admitted or denied entry into the UK.

 

[Orionaut]

Of course, the other question is.

Who are the "Far Right" terrorists supposed to be terrorising?

I have no particular concern over being blown up on a Bus or a Tube train or at a rock concert etc by a national action member.

 

[explicit4u]

Of course, the other question is.

Who are the "Far Right" terrorists supposed to be terrorising?

I have no particular concern over being blown up on a Bus or a Tube train or at a rock concert etc by a national action member.

Would you consider yourself to be part of any minority groups?

 

[VincentHanna]

Wonder whether Lauren Southern, rather outrageously arrested and detained under a terrorism act, counted in the figures for 'right wing terrorists'.

His arrest under the terroist act is a rather separate matter as to whether or not he should be have been admitted or denied entry into the UK.

Is Lauren southern a man?

 

[Caracus2k]

Would you consider yourself to be part of any minority groups?

Everyone is in one or more 'minority groups' of some description... It's a question of just how intersectional you want to get?

I'm sure polling on some uk based minority groups like Jews, Sikhs and Hindus may provide some rather interesting results in what there fears might be with regards to terrorism.

 

[Caracus2k]

Is Lauren southern a man?

Yes she is (legally)

 

[h4rm0ny]

His arrest under the terroist act is a rather separate matter as to whether or not he should be have been admitted or denied entry into the UK.

What you did there, I see it. -.-

 

[LabR@t]

Yes she is (legally)

Alt right trans gen ?

Hmm, that's going to confuse some people.

 

[h4rm0ny]

Alt right trans gen ?

Hmm, that's going to confuse some people.

Well she's not Alt-Right, but yes, it has left a few people floundering for words. She did it one day to show how trivial it was to legally claim another sex. IIRC, she popped into the doctors in the morning, said: "Can you write something to say I'm a man, please." And then popped over the City Hall afterwards and "became" a man. She's occasionally used it to flummox someone. It's a bit mean really because it's not really an intellectual argument. But it's also kind of funny because it wouldn't work on anyone who wasn't themselves using Identity Politics to make their point. To whit:

 

[LabR@t]

Lol, just to prove a point then. Excellent

 

[h4rm0ny]

Sticking with Lauren Southern though, the question still remains open as to whether she is included in any "terrorism" statistics. Presumably not for West Midlands in the OP but she was detained under the terrorism act for her leaflets. Does that or does that not count? I presumed it wouldn't but reading the OP's article is refers to "suspected terrorism offenses" so I now think maybe it does.

I also note, for what it's worth, that the article engages in the old "more white people than X" line. Which isn't hugely useful in a country nearly 90%+ are White thus rendering comparison based on absolute numbers rather than proportion highly misleading. It's a sleight of hand I see too often and immediately diminishes the credibility of everything else they've written.

 

[Nasher]

Would you consider yourself to be part of any minority groups?

If your white British and living in and around London (and a few other towns/cities) then your a minority. Backed by statistics

But yes as he said. I doubt anyone has fears of being blown up by some white nationalists. It just doesn't happen. If they doing terrorist stuff, it's pretty insignificant in reality.

 

[LabR@t]

What exactly is the threat here?

Bombs?
Stabbibgs?
Road rammings?
Leaflet distribution?

Come on we need to know, it's the UK' biggest growing threat, where are the details?

 

[mmj_uk]

What exactly is the threat here?

Bombs?
Stabbibgs?
Road rammings?
Leaflet distribution?

Come on we need to know, it's the UK' biggest growing threat, where are the details?

The only/worst incidents I can think of is Joe Cox and a few hit and runs outside Mosques? (both arguable just nut cases), it's not exactly on the same level as beheading soldiers in broad daylight and bombing childrens concerts whilst shouting religious phraseology but I'm sure the police are under strict orders to prioritise it over everything else and record even cases like Anna Soubry getting shouted at in the street.

It seems to me that the far right/Nazi/Fascist threat that the left are pushing heavily at every opportunity is just an attack on anything that stands against their own political agenda, much like phantom Russian collusion and election hacking even though private multinational corporations who are on the left of politics are having 100 fold more influence on political debate/dissemination of information.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Of course, the other question is.

Who are the "Far Right" terrorists supposed to be terrorising?

I have no particular concern over being blown up on a Bus or a Tube train or at a rock concert etc by a national action member.

To be fair, the scrote who bombed the Admiral Duncan was/is a far right terrorist and he only missed me by 30 minutes.

 

[VincentHanna]

It seems to me that the far right/Nazi/Fascist threat that the left are pushing heavily at every opportunity is just an attack on anything that stands against their own political agenda,

I wouldn't describe sky news as "The left"

 

[Irish_Tom]

Good to see a return to traditional domestic bombing, rather than that imported Muslim stuff.

 

[Angilion]

The only/worst incidents I can think of is Joe Cox and a few hit and runs outside Mosques? (both arguable just nut cases), it's not exactly on the same level as beheading soldiers in broad daylight and bombing childrens concerts whilst shouting religious phraseology but I'm sure the police are under strict orders to prioritise it over everything else and record even cases like Anna Soubry getting shouted at in the street.

There's something odd about that - why would someone who really is far-right/nazi/blahblahblah call Anna Soubry a nazi as an insult? It would make far more sense for a far-left activist to do so. There's very little difference in effect between far right and far left since they're both authoritarianism and irrational prejudice, but I prefer accuracy and the idea of a nazi calling someone a nazi as an insult seems of dubious accuracy to me.

 

[Angilion]

Good to see a return to traditional domestic bombing, rather than that imported Muslim stuff.

Who was behind the bomb?

 

[Caracus2k]

Who was behind the bomb?

Well if it was anything to do with the IRA or one of its subsequent splinter organisations probably not the 'far right' as the IRA and its leaders were more likely to lean towards socialism (albeit of a rather nationalist variety)

Joe McCann: Official IRA leader had sought a socialist Ireland

• Tommy McKearney was a senior member of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) from the early 1970s until his arrest in 1977 had the following to say in an interview with socialist worker.

"I am assuming that your readers accept the value of socialism as a system. What we're talking about here is why the Provisional IRA should have--and could have--adopted an explicitly socialist agenda."

The Official IRA (OIRA), the remainder of the IRA after the 1969 split with the Provisionals; was primarily Marxist in its political orientation. It is now inactive in the military sense, while its political wing, Official Sinn Féin, became the Workers' Party of Ireland.