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Faraday key blocking thingy

Discussion in 'Motors' started by nst68, 18 Oct 2021.

  1. Razor-BladE

    Mobster

    Joined: 15 Feb 2009

    Posts: 4,230

    Location: Bristol

    My car doesn't have keyless entry, but does have keyless start. I assumed I wouldn't need a faraday pouch, am I right or wrong?
     
  2. mattyg

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 17 Jun 2007

    Posts: 8,455

    You can get trackers that are backed up with a key fob... Keep the keyfob separate from the main keys. Let the toe rags have the car. Tracker call and ask if its unauthorised use. Then call the police.
     
  3. nst68

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 7 Jul 2003

    Posts: 1,482

    Location: Chelmsford

    It's a Peugeot 3008
     
  4. alexp999

    Gangster

    Joined: 19 Apr 2010

    Posts: 347

    Location: Dorset, UK

    If you want to test for sleepy keys, put the key on the floor near the car such that keyless entry works, then lock the car and don't touch the key for a couple of minutes. Then try opening the door on the car without touching the key, if it is a sleepy key the car won't unlock.
     
  5. Liquidfox

    Mobster

    Joined: 26 Sep 2007

    Posts: 4,127

    Location: Newcastle

    Correct, you don't need one as you need to physically press the fob to open the car.
     
  6. nst68

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Chelmsford

    Cheers, will give that a go in a bit
     
  7. ZG002

    Capodecina

    Joined: 22 Jul 2004

    Posts: 10,904

    Location: Up north in Sunderland

    After having a look about on google it doesn't look like Peugeot have introduced anything to stop this type of theft.

    I'd be getting a bag/box ordered ready for the new car.

    Some have mentioned the dealer is able to deactivate the system but who knows?

    I wouldn't imagine it's a mega popular car for theft in this country (they tend to go for the high end cars or sport models like the Range Rovers, RS ford's, VW R's, Audi RS etc) but yeah I'd not be overly confident with the security features by the sounds.
     
  8. nst68

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 7 Jul 2003

    Posts: 1,482

    Location: Chelmsford

    Yay, I have a sleepy key :cool:

    I tried a few different times, looks like the key goes to sleep after 2 mins
     
  9. cheesefest

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 18 Jul 2021

    Posts: 1,153

    Location: Land of Gin (I wish)

    I have a keyless entry car. Always keep keys in my handbag which is kept in a room on the other side of the flat to my car space. Can’t open car with handbag there.

    Parents use a small metal tin which was the packaging for a watch.

    A customer told me she drove without her keys as in a coat pocket in the hall. Had to get a taxi as unable to start car.
     
  10. ZG002

    Capodecina

    Joined: 22 Jul 2004

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    Location: Up north in Sunderland

    That's not as safe as you think. The issue isn't keys being too close to the car and dirty little thieves just opening the door it's that there is equipment out there that let's them scan your house/flat for the key signal and transpond that signal to someone standing at your car so the car thinks the key is right next to it.

    Unless you can turn off the keyless entry or your key has a sleep feature you are leaving yourself open to these scum bags.
     
  11. Razor-BladE

    Mobster

    Joined: 15 Feb 2009

    Posts: 4,230

    Location: Bristol

    I was more thinking if they could copy the signal that allows you to keyless start, if they can get in the car somehow, then they can start the car?
     
  12. M1k3H

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Jul 2010

    Posts: 1,862

    I assume the signal is much weaker for keyless start. I have keyless start and if you step out of the car it complains it lost the key. Hence they shouldn't be able to relay the signal; unless you have the key right next to your door/external wall.
     
  13. ZG002

    Capodecina

    Joined: 22 Jul 2004

    Posts: 10,904

    Location: Up north in Sunderland

    How do you think the scum bags start these cars once they gain access to them?

    It's not much weaker it's just designed so the system knows the key is in the car before it allows it to start.

    Same tech is used as opening the door, they just sit inside the car instead with their equipment and start it.

    I've got keyless entry turned off as one barrier and my key sleeps after a little while as the second.

    If they really want the thing they will break in I guess.