Feb 27/28 for 5D2 replacement?...

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CR3 at Canon rumours:

22mp
61pt AF
100% VF
3.2″ LCD
Dual CF/SD Card Slots
Price: Around $3500 USD
Announcement on February 27 or 28, 2012 (Depending where you are on earth)

Not liking the price...

 

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Where that rumour falls down for me are the dual cf/sd slots as I see Canon going CF only with their pro lines.

As far as the rumoured price, well you would be getting getting what looks like 1DX AF with a larger FF sensor. The MkII was £2,300 when launched so $3,500 sounds about right.

Card format isn't a deal breaker for me. $3,500 will most likely translate into £3,500 or near as dammit as always. So a couple of years off before I pick one up.

 

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That's a hell of a big sticking point! Nobody in the market for the D300 replacement is going to buy the D800. People who previously had a FF and crop bodies perhaps, but those with just the crop? No chance.

 

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D800 is £2400 and the grip is £380. Sure the price will come down, but not fast enough! I'm still waiting for all these cheap D700's to start appearing

 

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You might have to wait a long time for the D700 to lower in price.
I would also pick up a D700 if they became cheaply available but I doubt that will happen and so the D800 just makes more sense for little extra money.
Keeping my eyes open but I think soon enough price difference between a new D800 and a second hand D700 will be around £400 and the D800 is definitely worth that extra.

The D800 will drop to sub £2000 before too long.

If the D800 sells well and D700 owners move to it the prices will come down. One was offered for £1000 the other day on TP... Of course if the D700 owners all hold onto 'em... Looks like I'll be staying with the 1Ds2 for a while longer!

 

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Tbh, I don't think a D700 is that much of an upgrade is it?

From my 1Ds2? Higher ISO and size is what I'm looking for. I love the 1Ds2 and no issues carrying it around, but there have been times when I just want to stick it in a bag when going somewhere and that has been a bit of an issue. Although for the price they are going for now I might pick up a 40D as a smaller camera, the crop will come in handy for airshows as well. I'm not getting an better ISO performance though, BUT I guess with spring\summer coming the light is going to get better anyhow. So no rush

 

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For static wildlife the D800 will be great, I hate the 4fps on my 1Ds2 for birds in flight though. The wings never seem to be in the right position, something that a higher fps helps with a lot. I keep coming back to the D800, it's a lot of bang for buck. The 5D2 replacement has got to show very good performance if it really is £500 more expensive...

 

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There's nothing worse than successfully tracking a bird only to find the shots are average due to wing placement. I gave up on the whole thing after working out the expense of picking up a 1D4 and a 300 f2.8 plus 2x TC to cover all the stuff I wanted at the time. It was then that I realised sticking within my limits was the way to go

 

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I'm sorry but why do a lot of people insist on high frame rates for BIFS. I can understand it should make it easier but surely learning proper technique is only a matter of time and experience. I have a d800 on order and I'm sure I will appreciate the 4 FPS it delivers.

Depends on the birds you're shooting, if it's gliding/soaring you're fine on single shot. If it's powering through with lots of wing movement you soon appreciate what 10fps gives you over 4fps. I go out now with the 1Ds2 and get plenty of shots, none that I Iike due to boring or obstructive wing placement

 

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Don't forget you do get better fps in crop mode on the D800 and with the grip/D4 batteries. Still only 6 though.

 

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Well I'll hang on to see that happens to prices (and the 1Ds3 prices), but that D800 is looking tempting again... Maybe even the D700.

edit: .. Also the 1D4 prices