You can't trust car dimensions from Parkers at all. It appears that some measurements include width across door mirrors and other are just body width which makes a huge difference.
What about the hideous Chrysler thing (Voyager?)
ffs, why are diesel auto people carriers so expensive!
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You can't trust car dimensions from Parkers at all. It appears that some measurements include width across door mirrors and other are just body width which makes a huge difference.
What about the hideous Chrysler thing (Voyager?)
Just had a look, very shiney kit, nice big engine, way over our budget though.
We're going to end up with another Zafira, i know it.
We're going to end up with another Zafira, i know it.
Soldato
Get over the looks and they're supposed to be a good car, but Fiat Multipla? The most recent version isn't even that ugly!
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Why no mention of the Galaxy/Alhambra/Sharan?
Granted they are pretty large, but they are cheap, and parts are plentiful.
Granted they are pretty large, but they are cheap, and parts are plentiful.
Soldato
Galaxy (I managed to get one on Mobility, before the AP cap) Titanium X spec, 2.0l Diesel (163) - fantastic motor and fine to get in/out of.
Hand controls stop the steering wheel adjustment though
Hand controls stop the steering wheel adjustment though
Soldato
No don't.
It'll be a lemon. You won't get a decent diesel Volvo estate for less than £3kish. I've tried!!
It's not me that'll be doing most of the driving, so she gets to pick. Multipla? It's on the list!
Been looking at them too, they seem to be either out of our price range or 250 miles away
Second hand cars seem to be stupidly priced down here.There are a few possibilities though.
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Sedona definitely off the list, Looked at a 7 seater version and the 3 seat unit is at the back, not in the middle.
Would have liked a V6.
Would have liked a V6.
Soldato
Sedona definitely off the list, Looked at a 7 seater version and the 3 seat unit is at the back, not in the middle.
Would have liked a V6.
I doubt you're missing much; it's unlikely the Kia V6 is a shining example
Renault Grand Scenic?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/...had/used,nearlynew,new/transmission/automatic
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Had a look at them, but the diesels are £4k+
Soldato
Had a look at them, but the diesels are £4k+
MUST it be a diesel? Your choices are limited enough by the 7 seats automatic criteria!
We make biodiseasel, cuts the fuel costs by at least two thirds.
Odds are we'll get another zafira, it ticks all the boxes and they're nice enough to drive, always worth having a look around though.
Odds are we'll get another zafira, it ticks all the boxes and they're nice enough to drive, always worth having a look around though.
Soldato
Multipla?
Already looked, no diesel autos to be seen.
Caporegime
Soldato
If you could manage a petrol, this may be just the car
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-PR...&prg=1013&rk=5&sd=290784919500&#ht_500wt_1414
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-PR...&prg=1013&rk=5&sd=290784919500&#ht_500wt_1414
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It is not that bad my wife's zafira 1.9 150 cdti has just went past 100k (we have had it since 3k) and it has cost us £0 in non service items. It did have a DMF under warranty but even paying for the three common failures which are EGR, swirl flaps and the DMF which would be around £1,500 for the three to cover 100k doesn't seem that expensive to me. In contrast my petrol Golf has cost me 2k this year alone in repairs with 25k less miles on the clock.
On the mpg front I think it is pretty good 50mpg on a run and 39mpg round town which is it's main use for a childcare business my wife runs. Overall in 100k the average is 41mpg, I would be surprised if a 1.8 petrol could get near that as the one I have driven could barely make 30mpg as well as being significantly slower.
I think i can declare today as a "result", a very good "result" 
Zafira autos are £2695+ down here or £1995+ if i drive 200 miles up country.
Last night i spotted a Zaf auto for a price that made me assume it was spares or repair or just a typo.
Rang up, it was real! Dealer has found a way around the SoGA by classing their sales as "auctions", with the buyer getting all the usual protection an auction gives .....
They only had 3-4 cars there anyway, they're actually a caravan/motorhome dealer, but their parent company sells cars and uses their site to shift on the p/ex stuff.
Took me 90(ish) minutes to get their by train, the guy drove to the train station to pick me up and it took us another 60 minutes to get back across town to their site. Taunton is NOT a nice place to drive, there are "one or two" sets of roadworks. Which are close enough together to backlog into each other with the queues of cars. Awesome.
But it gave me time to drive the car and listen to the money saving creaks and grinds that i could use against the asking price. Noisy wheel bearing, duff indicator cancel, dirty interior, etc, all really big problems, honest.
Get back to the lot, i give the car another check over, everything seems to work!
Go into the office, the guy makes me a coffee, does a hpi check (didn't even ask!) and asks me to make him an offer. Not had that before, usually it's "isn't it a wonderful motor, give me all your money". The full asking price was only £1490, and this guy is asking for offers?
I try the fabled sit there quietly thing, and he came out with "the lowest i can take for it is £1250",
I'm not sure if the guy is the worst car salesman in the world, or the best!
Bit his hand off at that price Then the AA wouldn't transfer my insurance because their computer says it's a manual not an automatic and that they never made an automatic in this particular poverty spec (poverty spec has AC, electric front windows & heated mirrors, i'm sure i can struggle through) so it must be an Opel import and therefore not insurable by them. They can insure virtually every other Opel model, but not the Zafira. Turns out the log book DOES say Opel, but every search engine i put it into turned it out as a Vauxhall.
So the nice saleman let me spend 20 minutes on his computer while i bounced around the comparison sites and started another policy so i could get the car home.
To sum up, 2004 Zafira Auto 2.0dti 174k (40k less than our current car) with 10 months MOT for £1250.
It's been a good day
Zafira autos are £2695+ down here or £1995+ if i drive 200 miles up country.
Last night i spotted a Zaf auto for a price that made me assume it was spares or repair or just a typo.
Rang up, it was real! Dealer has found a way around the SoGA by classing their sales as "auctions", with the buyer getting all the usual protection an auction gives .....
They only had 3-4 cars there anyway, they're actually a caravan/motorhome dealer, but their parent company sells cars and uses their site to shift on the p/ex stuff.
Took me 90(ish) minutes to get their by train, the guy drove to the train station to pick me up and it took us another 60 minutes to get back across town to their site. Taunton is NOT a nice place to drive, there are "one or two" sets of roadworks. Which are close enough together to backlog into each other with the queues of cars. Awesome.
But it gave me time to drive the car and listen to the money saving creaks and grinds that i could use against the asking price. Noisy wheel bearing, duff indicator cancel, dirty interior, etc, all really big problems, honest.
Get back to the lot, i give the car another check over, everything seems to work!
Go into the office, the guy makes me a coffee, does a hpi check (didn't even ask!) and asks me to make him an offer. Not had that before, usually it's "isn't it a wonderful motor, give me all your money". The full asking price was only £1490, and this guy is asking for offers?
I try the fabled sit there quietly thing, and he came out with "the lowest i can take for it is £1250",
I'm not sure if the guy is the worst car salesman in the world, or the best!
Bit his hand off at that price
Then the AA wouldn't transfer my insurance because their computer says it's a manual not an automatic and that they never made an automatic in this particular poverty spec (poverty spec has AC, electric front windows & heated mirrors, i'm sure i can struggle through) so it must be an Opel import and therefore not insurable by them. They can insure virtually every other Opel model, but not the Zafira. Turns out the log book DOES say Opel, but every search engine i put it into turned it out as a Vauxhall.So the nice saleman let me spend 20 minutes on his computer while i bounced around the comparison sites and started another policy so i could get the car home.
To sum up, 2004 Zafira Auto 2.0dti 174k (40k less than our current car) with 10 months MOT for £1250.
It's been a good day