filter types ????

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am looking for some filters for my canon 350d, i do a lot of landscapes and sun scenes ie rises and sets and with summer up on us i have notices that what should be a clear blue sky gets washed out by the sun been looking at the polarize filters and there seems to be a few about, any filters that i should have or that would help me to see mt pictures have a look at

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steveo said:
am looking for some filters for my canon 350d, i do a lot of landscapes and sun scenes ie rises and sets and with summer up on us i have notices that what should be a clear blue sky gets washed out by the sun been looking at the polarize filters and there seems to be a few about, any filters that i should have or that would help me to see mt pictures have a look at

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Stack a few Neutral Density Grads and that will allow for better forground detail exposure. Also a polarizer will reduce your exposure by 2 stops and also enchancing the colours of your skys (providing you have dialed it correctly)
 
I've just jumped into filters myself in a big way so have been reading up a lot, here's some of what i've picked up myself and from reading around:-

As i'm sure you've seen there are millions of different filters! But there are actually only a small number that could be considered "essential". For example you don't need to worry much about the coloured ones etc, pretty much all of that can be done in photoshop. I would say the only ones that everyone should definetly have are: Circular polarizer, Neutral density and a Neutral density gradient.

For landscape the main filters are neutral density gradients, this allows you to darken the sky (for example) so that you can get a more balanced exposure and keep all the detail in the sky as well as not under exposing the ground. They come in many different strengths, 0.6 being the middle and a good place to start. Then theres hard and soft versions, hard meaning an abrupt change from the dark part of the filter to the clear part, soft being a gradual change.

The cokin P series is quite a good place to start, you need a filter holder, an adaptor ring (whatever sizes you want to fit on your lenses) and then of course the filters. Theses filters are square/rectangular and can be used on any lens.

Then there is the circular polariser, these are great for giving nice blue skys, removing reflections and increasing the saturation of various objects (good in forests etc). However they dont work that well on ultra wide angles (10-13mm on a 1.6x crop factor like your camera). Very worthwhile investment though! If you want to use the CP on more then one lens it may be cheaper to buy one large filter, and then some step down rings for the rest of your lenses. Saves buying one filter for each lens!

As for brands, Hoya is very well respected. They have several versions of each type of filter (different coatings). Its generally true that you'll get what you pay for so I think its worth spending a little extra and getting the best coating you can afford. There are also plently of other brands, only one i've heard lots of complaints about is tiffen, so maybe avoid them and i'm sure you'll be fine.

There are hundreds of filters about. Many kind of unnessary if you learn photoshop. But good fun if you want to experiment a little more when you're out taking the pictures. I've found in much more fun playing with the filters rather then photoshop, which is why i've invested in a Lee filter system (yum). Only problem is you always want more filters and they cost soooo much!

Anyway, hope that's of some help!
 
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I'd say its just a trap to make you want to buy more, and more and ever more! :p

Looking at all those before and after pictures can be very dangerous.
 
Yeah thats whay i've always done so far. But I couldnt help myself the other day, ordered some coloured gradients to help with my sunsets. You gotta have something to play with whilst your waiting for that sun to go all the way down! They hold their price well 2nd hand so wont be a problem if i dont like them.

I find it so much more satisfying if the photo is kept as "manual" as possible. I always feel like i'm cheating in photoshop. I dont know why, i do realise how silly that is!

Maybe I should get a 35mm and be done with it!
 
thanks a lot peoples going to get the 3 main ones that yak has recommend and start from there does it matter which company i get them from or am i safe in going with a cokin filter :p ;)
 
Cokin are a great make and very popular/widely available. Just make sure you get the right filter holder for your camera. You'll probably want the P series, but there are also XPro and ZPro (which are better quality) if you can afford the extra dosh.
 
Cokin definetly a safe choice, although the Hoya's generally have a better reputation, especially if you go with the HMC/Super HMC coatings. But you wont go too wrong with either. Also no point in getting their (Hoya's) graduated filter, because its a circular screw on one so you are stuck with the changeover right in the middle of the lens, which isnt the best for composition. With the cokin you've got a big square one that you can slide up and down to get the perfect position.

Happy shopping!

Also make sure you check out Ebay, some very good offers to be had on filters about the place.
 
yak.h'cir said:
Cokin definetly a safe choice, although the Hoya's generally have a better reputation, especially if you go with the HMC/Super HMC coatings. But you wont go too wrong with either. Also no point in getting their (Hoya's) graduated filter, because its a circular screw on one so you are stuck with the changeover right in the middle of the lens, which isnt the best for composition. With the cokin you've got a big square one that you can slide up and down to get the perfect position.

Happy shopping!

Also make sure you check out Ebay, some very good offers to be had on filters about the place.
Yeah, I was just talking about the square filters.

My polarising is a Hoya. Only got the cheap one (green packet) though because I couldn't afford £70odd on the super dooper one :)
 
Yeah they are crazy expensive! I managed to pick one up a super HMC (77mm :eek: ) one for about £50 of ebay which was a steal! Must say the difference in quality is not a huge as i imagined, only really noticable on the widest angles, but then that's why I got it!
 
just looked in my camera bag for the one and only cokin filter that i have and its a p.197 ( think thats right) use it on sun scenes and its very good just got to wait for pay day on friday then am going to get the filters :p

example of the p.197 in action linkage
 
yak.h'cir said:
Yeah they are crazy expensive! I managed to pick one up a super HMC (77mm :eek: ) one for about £50 of ebay which was a steal! Must say the difference in quality is not a huge as i imagined, only really noticable on the widest angles, but then that's why I got it!
Yep, got mine from the bay and it's a 77mm too. £26, which is all I could afford. Still, much cheaper than buying in the highstreet shops. Think it's about £60 for the cheapest one :eek:
 
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