Finally Stopped Driving It To Wash + Pics
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In that case they are probably the same as my old HDi, 54mm pistons? probably be cheaper to get hold of HDi brakes than 206 GTi ones too
yer 54mm
calipers:
20mm = non abs
22mm = abs
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Pfft, have an imagination you boring sod! Looks great to me mate, possibly lower it so the tyres sit just under the arches and fill them perfectly. Apart from that idd leave it and just go for performance mods although technically suspension is performance
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They are superb cars, mate had one and they handle superbly I nearly ditched a Type R Civic trying to keep up with it on a country road. Straights were easy to catch up but the 106 was doing at least 5-10mph more round the corners. Probaly one of the most fun drives I have ever done !
Mates was black with the alloys coated black lowered around 30-40mm it looked great.
Mates was black with the alloys coated black lowered around 30-40mm it looked great.
Thats one of the main reasons i got one, nimble really is the word the feedback is ace, the steering pinsharp and the grip... its just a really well rounded car imo
Im unsure if i will lower it as its supposed to make the car lose its predictability... any views on this?
Smart little car, mate. Though, after owning a Saxo VTR I would be constantly worried about it falling apart.
EDIT: If you lower it I would get some decent coilovers and not just some lowering springs as they make the ride horrible in my experience.
EDIT: If you lower it I would get some decent coilovers and not just some lowering springs as they make the ride horrible in my experience.
Sell the wheels and buy either Pug 306 Cyclones (but with 45 profile tyres) or Saxo VTS wheels.
Pug 306 GTI-6 brakes with 283 discs (fit under 15s fine). Standard master cylinder on the GTI is 23mm one anyway so no worries there. I'm running Wilwood 4 pots off standard master cylinder. TBH i think the standard brakes are borderline dangerous. Fade very very easily with the 16v lump in.
No point in coilovers as they are very expensive and you can only get them for the front. For a purely road setup I would get bilstein sport dampers with H+R springs and get torsion bar adjusted to suit. This will keep ride quality and handling of the car whilst lowering it and making it roll less. Also lower wishbone brace is a good mod for £30.
Pug 306 GTI-6 brakes with 283 discs (fit under 15s fine). Standard master cylinder on the GTI is 23mm one anyway so no worries there. I'm running Wilwood 4 pots off standard master cylinder. TBH i think the standard brakes are borderline dangerous. Fade very very easily with the 16v lump in.
No point in coilovers as they are very expensive and you can only get them for the front. For a purely road setup I would get bilstein sport dampers with H+R springs and get torsion bar adjusted to suit. This will keep ride quality and handling of the car whilst lowering it and making it roll less. Also lower wishbone brace is a good mod for £30.
What's wrong with uprated springs and dampers? There's no need to jump straight to the top end with coilovers.
Springs with uprated dampeners are fine I guess but, personally, I would only get coilovers. Just never ever get lowering springs and fit them to your standard dampeners, its bad mmkay.
What about the pedal travel? I think the standard brakes have too much (compared with the 306 HDi) I dont like having to press the pedal in loads before the brakes bite, but i also dont want to replace the master cylinder. Would braided brake lines help?
Why coilovers? 106s only have struts on the front. What is the point in a fully adjustable front end and non adjustable rear? A huge waste of money and also the coilovers for 106s/saxos are of dubious quality anyway not like jap stuff.
That is the nature of the car, unfortunately the master cylinder is on the passenger side of the car and the brake pedal is on the drivers side. No bigger master cylinder will help the situation. Seriously the standard ABS M/C on these cars is fine. Pedal feel didnt really change that much when I went from standard to 4 pots.
I did fit braided lines, no idea if they helped or not but they are cheap and standard ones will probably be seized so why not? If your pedal is genuinely spongey, probably needs fresh fluid and properly bleeding. With the abs unit on this car I found I had to use a pressure bleed kit to get rid of all spongeyness.
Dampers
They damp the spring, not dampen it. Who'd want a soggy moist spring Any particular reason? Unless you want an adjustable ride height (pointless on the 106 as it has torsion bar rear end) there is not a lot of benefit from an fitting adjustable coilover kit. Remember, it has coil over suspension anyway (your standard Macpherson strut on most cars is a coil-over-damper arrangement)
It all depends on the car, the springs, the condition and specification of the damper, and how it is going to be driven. I have fitted lower/uprated springs to standard dampers many times, with a variety of outcomes. But a statement like "its bad mmkay" doesn't really hold water.
To be honest I totally forgot about the torsion bar so I guess uprated 'dampers' and springs are completely fine but I think I would still get coilovers because of the much more precise ride height adjustment you can get with them.
The reason why I said that simply fitting lowering springs is a bad idea is because in my experience, it is. I fitted lowering springs to one of my previous cars and the ride was horrible! It was very bouncy and just felt like I was driving on a bouncy castle all the time.
and springs are completely fine but I think I would still get coilovers because of the much more precise ride height adjustment you can get with them.The reason why I said that simply fitting lowering springs is a bad idea is because in my experience, it is. I fitted lowering springs to one of my previous cars and the ride was horrible! It was very bouncy and just felt like I was driving on a bouncy castle all the time.