Foodbanks: A sign of the times?

[Castiel]

Out of interest, within the charity is there a feeling that the government should be doing more than it is? If so, what kind of thoughts or ideas do your colleagues have?

To be fair I hold a slightly different view than most, I feel that the communities themselves should be doing more rather than relying on Governments to take responsibility for every aspect of our lives.

I think that if we took just a little more interest in those that share our immediate communities then many of these problems would all but disappear....more personal responsibilty and more community responsibility rather than more Government provision.

 

[w1lliam]

Wow, this is a depressing to hear about in this day and age.

 

[dazzerd]

Poor people seem to care the most about stuff like phones, because that's the only way they can show off. They can't afford a nice house or brand new cars or holidays to Belize, the way middle class people show off. So they show off with phones, big TVs, "designer" clothes, and stuff like that.

Can't really blame them, everyone wants to show off one way or another.

So it's easy to say "just give up your phone, sky, etc" as a middle class person because you could do that and still have your house, holidays, and everything, but they would have nothing at all left.

Not saying they are entitled to those things of course, just showing the other side of the coin.

Kwerk, I usually ignore your posts as they tend to make me go a little confused. Anyway you wouldn't actually believe how close you are to some modern thought on social deprivation. I was reading an article recently that basically said exactly what you seem to be saying. That people who have low self esteem make up for it by buying blingy items. Another interesting point was made that people with low self esteem tend to pay more for the same items than those with a more stable psychology.

 

[Mr Joshua]

Kwerk, I usually ignore your posts as they tend to make me go a little confused. Anyway you wouldn't actually believe how close you are to some modern thought on social deprivation. I was reading an article recently that basically said exactly what you seem to be saying. That people who have low self esteem make up for it by buying blingy items. Another interesting point was made that people with low self esteem tend to pay more for the same items than those with a more stable psychology.

Very interesting, my self esteem must be off the radar or I'm just tight .

 

[SpeedFreak]

To be fair I hold a slightly different view than most, I feel that the communities themselves should be doing more rather than relying on Governments to take responsibility for every aspect of our lives.

I think that if we took just a little more interest in those that share our immediate communities then many of these problems would all but disappear....more personal responsibilty and more community responsibility rather than more Government provision.

I think that's a symptom of modern society. While pockets may exist there is generally little social cohesion in England. Unfortunately in the commodity driven world we live in it's hardly sursprising. People are actually surprised on occasions when I hold a door open for them which says a lot.

 

[Deleted member 66701]

To be fair I hold a slightly different view than most, I feel that the communities themselves should be doing more rather than relying on Governments to take responsibility for every aspect of our lives.

I think that if we took just a little more interest in those that share our immediate communities then many of these problems would all but disappear....more personal responsibilty and more community responsibility rather than more Government provision.

Amen Castiel - it's one reason why I've become more involved in my Freemasonry than I thought I would when I was initiated 4 years ago. Charity and benevolance is very close to my heart.

Unfortunately there are those that don't want to contribute to the society/community they are a part of - that's why mandatory charges like council tax and income tax are levied by governments. If people were a little less self centered and thought more of/about thier fellow man then they'd be less need for taxation, or certainly at a reduced rate.

 

[wildman]

I don't know about you but I call relative poverty motivation.

motivation to what ? to go out and burgle homes and mug people for their valuables.

Relative poverty cannot motive you to go to work if there are no jobs positions for you to actually take.

Looking at it pragmatically, the largest demographic of people in relative poverty would likely be from a working class back ground. There is a medium to high chance that their education stopped at o-levels / GSCE stage, or A-Levels. Based on these qualifications and likely a shortage of experience no ammount of poverty can motivate you into a job that simply doesn;t exist.

Right now its an employers market, we get to pick and choose who we want to work for us and if I have a long list of people to chose for an interview the ones with the lowest qualifications get cut first.

There are obviously cases where people are work shy, but again the levels of this are not as profound as the media would have us believe, and for all the BNPites out there, its not because the 'blacks' 'wops' 'greasers' 'spics' 'poles' etc took 'our' jobs. The jobs just aren;t there to begin with. Companies are on a tight string, they make cuts , jobs get cut, people become un-employed, the job market gets saturated, companies who have vacanies then get to pick from a very large basket.