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For those who love their SUVs

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Old Joe Soap, 15 Oct 2021.

  1. NathWraith

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    Estates tend to be longer rather than taller. And longer usually means harder to park for some people.

    One thing I’ve heard is people with young kids prefer a crossover/SUV as it’s much easier putting kids into child seats rather than hunching down into a lower hatch/estate/saloon car.

    Ultimately it seems an SUV type car is all about convenience for a normal non performance motorist(the majority of the public):

    Pros
    - 4wd models better in inclement/off road conditions
    - raised ride high can deal with potholes and driving up kerbs without destroying a wheel/front splitter
    - generally more luggage/passenger space than a estate/saloon
    - easier to get in & out usually
    - better vision of the road ahead
    - usually safer in an accident
    - towing capability due to higher vehicle weight

    Cons:
    - usually higher running costs due to weight, bigger wheels, wear on brakes etc
    - cost to buy is normally higher compared to equivalent saloon/hatch/estate
    - worse handling compared to a normal ride height car
    - larger vehicle means harder to park and takes up more space on the road


    The reality is, cost & size are really the main drawbacks for the motoring public. I’d argue size is not a big deal as most crossovers and mid size SUVs aren’t much bigger than a regular sized hatchback or mid sized saloon car. Offset those points against the hugely increased practicality and you see why for most, it’s a no brainer.

    I didn’t add status or looks etc in the mix as these are too subjective to really be quantified.

    Performance SUVs on the other hand are something entirely different.
     
  2. Greebo

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    Thats still got 4 wheel drive though,. There are a lot of SUVs you can buy with just 2 wheel drive, including the Tiguan. That was Rroff's point I think, a lot of the SUVs you can buy nowadays and just 2wd so they make even less sense.
     
  3. alexakasloth

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    The question wasn't "why did you not buy an estate", but to answer it - it's taller so there is more space.
     
  4. Uther

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    Yes I don't much see the point in a 2 wheel drive SUV, apart from being higher up, but that's probably enough for some people. Personally it doesn't bother me what other people want to drive.
     
  5. chroniclard

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    Majority dont care about AWD or not, alongside the legit reasons above some just want a SUV because SUV.
     
  6. Kenai

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    God forbid anyone buys a vehicle because they just like it.
     
  7. Jonnycoupe

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    But my SNES is better than your Megadrive....
     
  8. jpaul

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    SUEV is still reducing those relative disadvantages of an SUV weight/handling/economy
    @ current petrol prices my wallet is telling me what owning an SUV would be like.
     
  9. theone8181

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    Also on the subject I'm sure it used to stand for suburban vehicle not sports utility vehicle.
     
  10. Rroff

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    Though I doubt they'd stand up to a thrashing like some older SUVs which were designed from the ground up to be a little more rugged the top model Tiguans do actually do pretty well especially on the right tyres where 4x4 becomes handy. Sadly lot of models now where that isn't the case at all - some even do worse than a regular car.
     
  11. EdwardTeach

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    I think that is just in your head. It has always stood for sports utility vehicle.
     
  12. Nasher

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    There is a Chevvy "suburban". Too big for our roads.
     
  13. Alex_6n2

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    Lots of reasons really

    Ability to sit on the tailgate whilst drinking champs and eating cheese
    Can carry all the shot guns and cartridges securely
    Plenty of space for the dogs
    Off road ability means it can get across the fields in winter
    Comfortable on the road
    The boot has power outlets
    The Queen has one
     
  14. Lyla77

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    I love the higher up driving position and whenever I get into a saloon or similar, I feel like I'm sitting on the road. Just my tuppence, not a snob about them but as I'm getting older I appreciate less back strain as I get in/out of them.
     
  15. Vandle

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    Got a RR Sport. First SUV I have had after years in V8 saloons, C63 and before that an Audi S5. I absolutely love it and if it got stolen from my drive tonight I'd get another one.
    Wanted something I could load up with camping gear, bikes etc and get away into the country. The thing carries so much stuff with the back seats down, is as solid on a dirt road at 100kmh as it is on the motorway. I can actually see more than just the car in front. Zero aquaplaning when we have epic storms, does near to 1,000km on a full tank of diesel, handles my admittedly limited amount of off roading extremely well and I drive it on construction sites at work on occasions too. Never had a problem parking it and it's plenty quick and sharp enough. Thought I'd miss the Merc but haven't looked back. Service and running costs cheaper too. Fingers crossed it doesn't decide to randomly flip over on to it's roof anytime soon. Didn't realise that was a thing until I read this thread :confused:

    The particle filter filling quickly has been an absolute pain throughout our various lockdowns though. Had to limp it to the dealer twice to get sorted.
     
  16. theone8181

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    The stability thing is very situational, basic physics says they're less stable due to a higher centre of gravity. They're more likely to roll but that doesn't mean they will roll. Although the only time I've been in one was a freelander about 15 years ago and it was ****, the amount of body roll fell like a ship on a rough sea:cry:. I have heard old people like them as they're a bit like driving an armchair:D. I do think alot drive like tools in them, but that might just be because they're probably the most popular "car" type, and so the figures are skewed, I find there's all a small proportion of poor drivers in every type of car.
     
  17. Begbie

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    I get them, I just don't get the small ones bought by woman who want loads of space and have less space than a ford ka - mind blowing.
     
  18. Vandle

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    Ha, yeah wasn't being entirely serious. Never felt in danger of rolling, even when traversing tricky terrain. Behaves just like a car on the roads. I considered a Cayenne too, that thing is even better. Very sharp braking and cornering. Liked it a lot.
     
  19. Mr_Sukebe

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    how about a better question, ie why not buy an MPV?
    Unfortunately the market for them has seriously dried up, leaving us with a fairly small choice, and those that do exist haven’t had anything like the investment that SUVs have received.
     
  20. Rroff

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    I've found that very mixed - VW ones tend to feel quite stable but the Nissan SUVs I've been in have literally felt like being in a small boat on the ocean on undulating roads to the point I at first thought the ones I'd had lifts in had some kind of fault...

    In better days my Navara was somewhat like driving an armchair - helped by having decent seats and a relatively refined engine with lazy power - sadly it has seen better days now though.