Forza 2 -The big reviews are appearing

[RuMp3l4$k1n]

Thought I would keep this separate from the Demo disscussion so it isn't lost in that thread.

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/792/792572p1.html


http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/driv...w.html?sid=6171672&tag=recent_updates;title;0

Good scores there it seems.

 

[BloodWolf]

wow .. 9.2 :O

 

[dirtydog]

9.3 http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1330/Forza-Motorsport-2/p1/
Despite giving it 9.3 they say this:-

The major gripes of Forza Motorsport 2 boil down to presentation items really, which is counterintuitive to what we’ve come to expect in the next generation. Usually the graphics and audio run at a high clip in full-budget 360 games, but it’s hard to consider Forza Motorsport 2 pretty visually or aurally. It’s no dog in either department, but certainly sacrifices were made to keep the sim intricacies intact, or so we can assume. Yes, force-feedback is finally a reality in your Xbox 360 sim racing experience.

Car and track models are spot-on of course, and telemetry, HUD readouts and general vehicle animations are solid. The 60fps rate is a reality too, and does help to make Forza Motorsport 2 buttery-smooth. Livery-edited cars also look excellent in the gallery and also in any Photo Mode vignettes. But playing Forza Motorsport 2 from the third person cams is visually disappointing for sure. Maybe its due to the lack of post-prod work (again, probably left off to keep the framerate stratospheric) or the techniques implemented in the skinning and lighting/shadowing departments. Whatever the case may be, Forza Motorsport 2 looks flat and uninteresting on many occasions. Even during replays.

Another one...

8.5 http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3159906

Forza 2 is the best sim racer out there right now, no question, and it continues to lead the way online. But aside from the cool online auction and community stuff, it's pretty much Forza 1 with updated graphics -- which is great, but I was hoping for a slightly larger step forward.

 

[Nismo]

I still think it looks good, glad it's getting the scores it deserves as it really is a great racing game. Dirt may look better, but it gets trounced on in terms of how it plays.

Of course, some people won't ever see past the 'disappointing' graphics.

 

[dirtydog]

Gamespot give it 9.2 despite saying it had a disappointing lack of tracks. Gamespot said the same thing about Forza 1, and it had more tracks! Yet they still give it 9.2 I do think the big review sites tend to give games an easy ride nowadays.

I mean surely something scoring 9.2 or 9.3 should be pretty much brilliant in every way with no reservations.

 

[Nismo]

Or maybe it's just actually a really good game, regardless? Can you just not accept that?

 

[dirtydog]

I can't accept a review site giving something a near perfect score, while the review itself admits that the game could have been better or is disappointing in some important ways (graphics or content). Because that doesn't add up

If a reviewer is happy with everything and has no reservations then by all means give it a score over 9. Do you take my point?

 

[dannyjo22]

Good reviews.

Not for me but seems to be a solid enough racer

 

[JamesRJ]

There are always loads of threads here complaining about games with stunning visuals and no game play and how games in the past were all much better. Well here we have a game with geat game play and imo great graphics and all people are doing is moaning about jaggies !!

 

[Nismo]

Do you take my point?

Not really, IMO a game can still score that high even with supposed flaws, if the core of the game is extremely good, which in this case it is.

I would imagine that a lot of games that get 9's would still have areas of improvement, if they didn't then surely they would get a perfect score (or near as makes no difference, 9.7, 9.8 etc).

What marks did stuff like GT3 or 4 get? I would guess around the same yet they were far from perfect.

 

[blueshift]

looks like a good game,, but i think its,, Dirt,, for me,, just seems like more fun., And i know its been said before,, but no cockpit view, really spoils it for me.

 

[n3crius]

Or maybe it's just actually a really good game, regardless? Can you just not accept that?

Just how I see it mate. I played GTR/2 and LFS, not because they look and sound like they are defining cutting edge graphics and audio, but because they are superb games to play. I'm glad I don't get hung up over the minor details and let it ruin excellent gameplay.

 

[moody]

Looks OK, sounds like crap thou. And the breaking is godawful and unrealistic. Once you get used to the breaking thou I'm sure these a half-decent game underneath.

Although I suspect the high scores of 9.2 are erm a little too high.

 

[Kojak]

Just how I see it mate. I played GTR/2 and LFS, not because they look and sound like they are defining cutting edge graphics and audio, but because they are superb games to play. I'm glad I don't get hung up over the minor details and let it ruin excellent gameplay.

If you analyze any game closely enough you'll see it's full of holes. Take the Gran Turismo series. They are all great games and give gamers hours of pleasure and therefore deserve their high review marks. Look at them closely though and you'll see the rubber band AI, AI that smacks you out of the way to stick like glue to the racing line, no damage modelling, a career mode that's a monotonous grind forcing you to race the same races over and over again, no online play and a poor sensation of speed (at least in my opinion). Do these faults matter? The answer is no to most people because the games give them months of pleasure and as a form of entertainment it's doing its job very nicely.

The wait for next Friday just got a whole lot longer.

 

[sja360]

And the breaking is godawful and unrealistic. Once you get used to the breaking thou I'm sure these a half-decent game underneath.

i think you'll find its a peace of ahem, once you master it
it aint that bad really without abs on at all. it does totally vary from car to car though which means you may screw up sometimes lol.

 

[Mr Men]

Or maybe it's just actually a really good game, regardless? Can you just not accept that?

No chance

 

[Robert]

9.2 represents a game that isn't perfect - what else do you want?

 

[hominid]

How many players is this at the console, not over xbox live?

I need a 4 player driving game to use with mates, anyone know of any?

 

[i-bert]

I don't know what the IGN reviewer is expecting from a sim.Flashy environments,sense of speed?

I think the reviewer should stick to Burnout.

 

[n3crius]

I don't know what the IGN reviewer is expecting from a sim.Flashy environments,sense of speed?

I think the reviewer should stick to Burnout.

sounds about right to me

couldn't care much for reviewers that drone on about garbage like this in a racing game.