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from a Q9550 to an I7 920????? do i ???

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Basicly i have a Q9550, doing a lot of rendering on this system with 3DS max 9, but want something thats faster

would me going onto an I7 920 setup be benefitial if so what performance increase should i expect to see?

i also overclock (not a pro).

hope to get help this time :(

ty
 
I would say overclock what you have before you spend any money, If you are still not happy i7 is just about the best you can get at this moment.
I suggest that you get a decent CPU cooler that is both socket 775 and 1366 compatible.
 
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i currently have mine overclocked to 3.6Ghz and won't go any further becuase i know for every 100mhz i increase the cpu by, i only shave off a seccond on rendering and i feel as if my cpu is coming to its limits.

i have been looking at the H50 by corsair for future cooling.

any renderers on these forums that could possibly put some input in?

thanks a lot
 
I went from Q6600 to Q9550 to overclocked Q9550 3.4GHz to 920 @ 3.8GHz.
Each time things got better, noticeably more on the last two changes.
There is a performance increase, tho not huge it has shaved upto 15 minutes of some of my rendering times - it depends how much you render and how large+detailed. If your spending a lot of time waiting for your PC to be free it may be worth the upgrade, but it wont really be making a huge difference considering the cost of it.
 
Badas>If you are a renderer or do any type of video encoding work then the i7 platform will benefit you most of all compared to the gamer.

That's not to say there will be not a perfromance increase in game but that depends on the game if it has been coded to make use of it. If all you want to do is play Streetfighter and resi evil 5 games while their is a slight increase in performance it is not noticeable unless you benchmark it or run fraps. And seeming as the framerates were high in the first place it hard to justify that kind of outlay for it.

But if you play other type of games say like RTS games then it can prove worthwhile as typically they usually use more cores than say straightforward shooters or what not. Games like Medieval 2 total war 2 or the supreme commander series, company of heroes etc then performance is increased. But like I said it varies from game to game.

But the advantages of i7 over my 9550 were more profound when I used it for application work such as video conversion etc. I have only just started to get into it and basically learning the ropes so to speak. Whether I continue with it is a different story. This is where the i7 shines over my 9550.

I would suspect the same would be true of 3d rendering but cannot say for sure as a)I am terrible at it and b)I have about as much artistic flair as a person who has zero ability in this department.

I have my 9550 clocked at 4ghz I would probably go higher if I hadn't reached the FSB limit of my motherboard and when I tested it against my i7 at stock for games then the performance IIRC I think the i7 was faster by about a few frame or so. But once I started to overclock the i7 then it pulled away.

Do you have that cinebench benchmark? Here is a very very rough baseline comparison and you can try it for yourself if you download it.

It takes my 9550 50 seconds to render the scene using the multiprocessor rendering.It takes my i7 39 seconds.There are plenty of members here who have even more faster setups who could render it quicker. While this is a synthetic benchmark and in no way correlates to the performance of 3dsmax between your 9550 and proposed i7 setup there is a performace increase from an i7 thanks to it 4 cores and 4 hyperthreading cores compared to the 9550 4 cores.

To answer your question of do I think it was worth it. It's difficult to answer this question look around the forum and you will see all sorts of setups with what I would at least call overkill specs. You see people running crossfire and sli setups using 285's or 5870's and then running it on 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 monitors. Ask them if it was worth it and they will give you all sorts of reason to justify it. At the end of the day you can justify anything if you want to. Same case here. I mainly play games. I don't render, Only just started to get into the video side of things. Basically the 9550 setup I have could have done the job maybe a bit slower but still worthy of being used. I just fancy a tinker about with a new setup that's all.

As for the H50 debate. I am not convinced of it on the i7 platform but that's just my own personal experience while there are other members here who could tell you differently. As to why I just don't get the same cooling ability that other members have achieved, honestly I don't know.

Maybe I have a hot running chip, Maybe I have seated it wrong, wrong application of paste and many other number of reason I could come up with but at the end of the day my less than satisfactory performance of the h50 cooler should not detract you. One thing is for sure though it can't be as bad as the stock cooler.

The other night when I quickly stuck that on for giggles it hit 100c under linx testing. And in that cold spell we were having I had to open the windows as I was literally roasting in my seat.:)

I saw your post in the other thread but decided to answer you here as not to go off topic. I wish you the very best on whatever you decide and wish you a happy new year.
 
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Hey badas.. I've moved from a Q9550 (C1 stepping) at 3.6 to an i7 920 clocked between 3.8 and 4.2 currently.. In gaming there's been no real noticeable difference between the two chips (fps, driving and rpg gaming for me) and I was originally thinking why did I upgrade?!! But I do dabble in some video production, editing and encoding and in this area there was a good improvement in times, off hand can't remember by how much but enough to make me feel better about the upgrade, however, I also think one of the contributing factors with me moving to the i7 was I wanted something new to play with ha-ha-ha !! If your big time video encoding etc, go for it.. If not, clock the Q9550 further.. Cracking chips ;)
 
It's worthwhile upgrading for the long term benefits. In the long run you will be saving yourself a lot of time on rendering things. I would sell off whatever you don't need.
I'm sure you will be very happy with this change.
 
if you sell your chip..... ;)

yes i would be selling my old chip to put towards a new system but i don't know where to sell it really ha can i do it here :S?

other parts like mobo and ram would also go as i am only replacing 3 parts of my system if i do go I7.

i must appreciate the feedback from guys who moved from my chip to I7's helps me out allot.

as for cinebench i rendered the motorbike scene on all 4 cores and achieved 58 secconds, i know most I7's achieve 38 secconds when they are overclocked to 4Ghz.

i am not an avid gamer as i used to be i am more of a designer / developer today and i am rendering animations (30 seccond animations) that take at least 24hrs to render out........ takes the p*ss a bit.

i have read plenty of reviews only showing how the I7 beats my current cpu in encoding but i think rednering is slightly different and cinebench doesn't totally seem like a good tool to use to father how much ofa performance increase i would get....

if i use cinebench as a benchmark to see how much performance i would gain, it would only be arround 8hrs of time cutt off from rendering a 30 seccond film,

i am coming to realise an I7 might not be worth it unless someone definatly buys my current parts (which i am willing to do for the right price) then it is 100% worth the cross over.

please continue to post your input on this topic as it helps many not just my self and it would be hugely benefitial to see some render's post in here if there are any.

thanks a lot guys.
 
You can use of ebay or gum tree etc
You can only sell them here via "Members market" if you meet the criteria.

Condition for member market:-

250 posts
Registered with the forum for 90days
 
You can use of ebay or gum tree etc
You can only sell them here via "Members market" if you meet the criteria.

Condition for member market:-

250 posts
Registered with the forum for 90days


ah ok can you makeme an exception of the members market criteria ? :P

i gues ebay it might be :(
 
You may actually get more for certain items on the auction site, q9550 cpu's are much sought after theese days, being the last s775 chips people are after them now to prolong the life of their rigs as opposed to a major upgrade.
 
i just did a quick scout arround ebay and it looks like i could get £300 for my cpu, mobo and ram

Q9550 with new heatsink (Xigmatec)
XFX 780i mobo
4gig DDR 2 OCZ ram

think thats reasonable price?

ty fellas
 
thanks BIGBC

it would make it definate that i would go I7.

i have also been lookin into possibly settings up a mini rendering farm gor home use, just a quic kquestion for people who may know an answer.... say if i have 4 pentium 4 machines all networked together.... do i then set them rendering a task on each PC say to render frames from 1 to 40 on one machines, 41 to 80 on another machine and so on....

or can i some how harness the power from all 4 machines into one ?? its a bit confusing for me atm

thanks for any input.
 
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