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from a Q9550 to an I7 920????? do i ???

Some results for you fellas with the help from GoRedwings19:

Basicly we both rendered the exact same model in 3DS max 9 with same settings. The program by the looks of it with help of others only renders faster or slower with different CPU speed, threads what ever makes a cpu a cpu....

If i rendered the model i could render the frame in 48 secconds

If GoRedwings19 rendered the same mode it would take him 38 / 40 secconds


We then rendered a animation to have a end difference of an I7 rendering the animation 10 minutes faster......

Conclusion - It would be financially daft of me to go I7 as i would not get a big enough difference in performance.... 10 minutes per hour reduction is not good enough for me and as my work isn't yet being done for money its going to be a no go :( sorry intel lol.



so the next thing i am considerign is to simply get a better cooler and try to overclock a litle more out of what i have left :)

thanks a lot for everyones help and if you still want to provide input go ahead.

thanks

Badas
 
Sorry, but a 25% reduction doesnt seem a good thing to you? In terms of technological progress that is really good. Maybe not enough to convince you to buy but I dont think you should really have expected more.

Would be good to have the full details of Redwings overclock.

I too may run this benchmark to confirm if you point me in the right direction + give me exact settings.
 
Was thinking about making a renderfarm but tis too much to handle (workout) at the moment...I have an e6600 and thinking about jumping to a q9550....to cut down on render times, when i get around to actually doing anything in Maya....(still learning the ropes myself)

What about outsourcing your stuff to a render service and let them do the work for you?
 
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Here are my details I use an i7 920 oc'ed to 4ghz. I have turbo switched off and hyperthreading enabled. the memory is running at 1900mhz on an asus p6tse board. I am using window 7 64 bit and a 3dsmax10 trial edition.

I have no idea what OS Badas is running and how much difference this would make to the overall rendering times. I don't have vista installed.

I am not sure if that help you guys.

I will rerender the scene tommorrow on my 9550 (which also has win 7 64-bit installed) setup which is also clocked to 4ghz and see how that does.

***Edit***

Badas>I installed the trial edition of 3dsmax10 on my 9550 setup. The single frame scene from the crysis forums I downloaded, I rendered as per instructions.

The rendering time according to the bar at the bottom was 44 seconds and translation time was 2 seconds. my 9550 setup is 4ghz, mem @942 mhz on an Asus rampage x48 board.

I hope this testing helps you in your decision and if you need a proof shot of the 9550 setup I would be more than happy to supply you with one.
 
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Hi guys,

@BIGBC, 25% reduction at a price of £300 to £600 definatly not work it "financially" :(

if i was to have upgraded from a Q6600 or a dual core then yes i would gave gone I7 most likely.

overall in a 30 seccond animation that takes 30 hours to render i would only save 4hrs max i think with the I7 in which time i would most likely be a sleep or out the house :P

the only reason why i expected more is from benchmark reviews and other forums insisted that the Q9550 is no competition to an I7 for my rendering it seems not, for video encoding then i would jump straight over to I7 but its something i yet do not do.

if you wish to test render your system in 3DS max then use this link on page 2 and follow the instructions posted by myself, Badas (clearly lables Test Your CPU!!!)

http://crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=57774&page=2

p.s. i also used windows 7 64bit
 
Badas said:
Hi guys,

@BIGBC, 25% reduction at a price of £300 to £600 definatly not work it "financially" :(

if i was to have upgraded from a Q6600 or a dual core then yes i would gave gone I7 most likely.

overall in a 30 seccond animation that takes 30 hours to render i would only save 4hrs max i think with the I7 in which time i would most likely be a sleep or out the house :P

the only reason why i expected more is from benchmark reviews and other forums insisted that the Q9550 is no competition to an I7 for my rendering it seems not, for video encoding then i would jump straight over to I7 but its something i yet do not do.

if you wish to test render your system in 3DS max then use this link on page 2 and follow the instructions posted by myself, Badas (clearly lables Test Your CPU!!!)

http://crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=57774&page=2

p.s. i also used windows 7 64bit
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I cant wait to see the i7 test results included because if it looks that the difference is only small then you saved me £600 this year by not going i7 as well.
 
Oh I thought you were using a real benchmark like cinebench. Im not going to 'get' 3DS max just for this sry.

I suppose the opinions off worth (im guessing thats what you mean) depends on how seriously you do this. Granted, when I set things to render I normally dedicate my system to it and do something else.

Most comparison charts I have seen about atm dont mention the older CPUs when overclocked - doesnt really help. Would be good to see results from stock Q6600, Q9550, 920 alongside overclocked versions.
 
@ chippy the test results have already been posted:

Renders

GoRedwings19 i7@??? = 39 seconds
Badas [email protected] = 48 seconds

and as for cinebench, that program made it look like the I7 is verry good being 30%+ performance increase but when i test with an I7 in the apps i use every day it doesn't cut it for me personally.
 
Yeah I found Cinema4D to be better written, I prefer it when I have to do that type of work.

Is the problem that you dont have a computer to use when rendering? or that the render just takes too long?
You could just get hold of or build a cheaper system to tide you over whilst rendering.
 
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boys boys boys ....

Cinebench is not a suitable yardstick.

In the real world the 3d guys have no option but to use autodesk software which you'll find to be very shoddy indeed.

I was shocked to see that some of the apps where not even ported to 64bit let alone be optimized for SSE to the power of 10.
 
Cinebench is pretty well balanced in reality - I realise this is one of the problems you are saying there is with it, doesnt reflect reality too well.
But Autodesk is not the be-all and end-all. There are plenty of other alternatives which are better developed. Autodesks sudden intrest in the Mac platform is holding them back somewhat.
 
@BIGBC, the problem was that rendering takes too long

i am currently wondering if a 2nd machine with same performance as mine would be a good idea to share a render, resulting in rendering time taking half of its original.

the problem now is finding a system identicle to mine but as cheap as possible
 
Hi, overclock your Q9550 for now free performance boost = faster rendering, just got my son Q9550 2.86GHz overclocked @ 3.3ghZ STOCK VOLTS 1.25v

GIGABYTE-p35-ds3p mobo -
MY BIOS SETTINGS FOR Q9550 @ 3.3GHz =

CPU Vcore-1.250v,

MEMORY DDR2 Vdmm ? depends on make (my memory OCZ 800 PC6400 Vdmm is 2.1v)
MEMORY DIVIDER set at 1:1 RATIO
Memory Frequency(Mhz) @ 778
MEMORY TIMINGS - 5-5-5-15
CPU FREQUENCY STOCK FSB 333MHz OVERCLOCKED @ 389MHz or 413MHz
+
CPU CLOCK RATIO (multiplyer) @ 8.5x OR 8x
= STOCK 333x8.5 OR 358x8 = 2.86GHz OVERCLOCKED @ 389X8.5 = 3.3GHz, 8x413 = 3.3GHz

Rest of the BIOS Setting are on AUTO or NORMAL, hope these settings give you a starting point
so you can overclock your Q9550. If you have any problems post BIOS settings and peeps will
give you a hand to solve them, let us know how you get on.
:)
 
OLDPHART said:
Hi, overclock your Q9550 for now free performance boost = faster rendering, just got my son Q9550 2.86GHz overclocked @ 3.3ghZ STOCK VOLTS 1.25v

GIGABYTE-p35-ds3p mobo -
MY BIOS SETTINGS FOR Q9550 @ 3.3GHz =

CPU Vcore-1.250v,

MEMORY DDR2 Vdmm ? depends on make (my memory OCZ 800 PC6400 Vdmm is 2.1v)
MEMORY DIVIDER set at 1:1 RATIO
Memory Frequency(Mhz) @ 778
MEMORY TIMINGS - 5-5-5-15
CPU FREQUENCY STOCK FSB 333MHz OVERCLOCKED @ 389MHz or 413MHz
+
CPU CLOCK RATIO (multiplyer) @ 8.5x OR 8x
= STOCK 333x8.5 OR 358x8 = 2.86GHz OVERCLOCKED @ 389X8.5 = 3.3GHz, 8x413 = 3.3GHz

Rest of the BIOS Setting are on AUTO or NORMAL, hope these settings give you a starting point
so you can overclock your Q9550. If you have any problems post BIOS settings and peeps will
give you a hand to solve them, let us know how you get on.
:)
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i am already at 3.6 ;) besides overclocking any more = only saving me 2 to 3 secconds per frame = not all that amazing even after 30 hours it won't cut much off

i am considering a 2nd system so i can render half the animation on one side, half the animation on another system...

thebudgets £500 (maybe £600) need everything in a tower except GPU and OS. still looking though
 
yeah i tried to build up an I5 cheap but really not sure what mobo to get becuase i would like to achieve 4ghz easily with still decent cooling, what case and mobo would you recomend i can prety much do the rest and post my shoppin list as a screeny in here :)

ty
 
Badas said:
i would like to achieve 4ghz easily
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that may not be too realistic. Some i5s seem to hit troubles around 3.6/3.8 no matter how good the rest of the set up.

Ive been eyeing up that MSI board, seems to tick all the right boxes and get good reviews.

OcUK seem pretty low on stock on the budget cases atm, CM Elite 334/335 and Xigmatek Asguard seems decent to me.
 
xigmatec = no way i saw a vid of that and its so so flimsy, i know its a cheap build but no way :( how about the antec 300? and i think i have seen a nice CM elite not sure if its same num as u recomended...

what kind of toubles do you mean with an I5? i just managed to build an I5 in shopping list for little over £500 and i am highly tempted by it :) also power supplies.... at hte moment i have an Antec 550W i think its modular, is that overkill?

p.s. gpu will be an 8800GTs 512

thanks BIGBC
 
I dont really have any experience with the Xigmatek, just thought it looked good at the price point - if you've seen bad things about it steer clear :)
I hate the Antec 300, have done 3 builds in it now and it is a PITA. No cable management whatsoever, feels pretty cheap - wouldnt say flimsy but not quality and poor airflow with high noise output.
And when I bought them they were only £30.

Just that some of the i5 chips dont overclock that well. 3.6GHz is still very fast and would do you good if you were to get one of the more limited chips - but hoepfully not.

550W would more than cover it, If you already have one then there is no harm in using it as the lower load means more headroom for heat/noise/life.
 
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