Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

can always get a jerry can to put in boot as an emergency supply .. who has ever run out and knows where the needle is when the music stops,
I don't know which side the take-off is on the tank so maybe it cuts first going downhill/uphill/right/left, must be a few decilitres in the rail.
- someone in JS had the base of a trolley filled with must have been 8 probably 5L sunflour oils.

no sign of easter traffic driving more economically still tail-gating car ahead so that they have to brake excessively at roundabouts, junctions; ev regen would help a bit.
 
Local station out of diesel again this morning, and just seen on the news prices are still going up, now at £1.80 average per litre. Can see a lot of car users trying to move away from diesel if these prices continue to rise, I wonder what effect it will have on the price of used petrol cars?
 
Its only going to put them up as well I suppose. I've not sat down and worked it out, but does the cheaper petrol now more than cover the difference in typical mpg for a given engine size ?
 
Local station has been closed 2 weeks due to having a new floor laid, no fuel deliveries in that time as they couldn't physically get on the forecourt, price for diesel when they closed 172.9, opened again today 179.9
 
so paying the £200M tank bill for Iran (sigorney ratclifs release) has had no reciprocation with taps being turned on ...
and china's locked down a bit so their consumption is still repressed - why has it gone up again ?

seems like an ill omen for the bank holiday, if anyone was going away, as I will be if the neighbours continue talking about a street party
 
I certainly don’t notice anyone driving more slowly than before. If I do 65 on the dual carriageway I only pass trucks and coaches and some works speed limited vans. Everyone else is still doing 70 or more.
 
been mentioned before - if Boris is looking for ways to help people reduce energy costs then a mandated reduction in speed limits wouldn't be a bad thing demand would drop and prices,
to the benefit of those less well off.
 
jpaul said:
been mentioned before - if Boris is looking for ways to help people reduce energy costs then a mandated reduction in speed limits wouldn't be a bad thing demand would drop and prices,
to the benefit of those less well off.
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Realistically it could only be done on roads with an already variable speed limit like so-called smart motorways and the ilk. The cost in street signage would be a fortune otherwise. I suppose the NSL signs could be kept and just change the limit to something lower, but how do you educate an already pretty thick public?
 
jpaul said:
seems like an ill omen for the bank holiday, if anyone was going away, as I will be if the neighbours continue talking about a street party
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My friends neighbour asked if they would change the weekend to accommodate their holiday.
 
Mysterae_ said:
Realistically it could only be done ...
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german suggestion V .... uk imports ~ 1M barrels a day and german saving would represent 20days of uk consumption
The controversial topic of introducing speed limits on the Autobahn is doing the rounds again, as both Greenpeace and the Environmental Action Germany have raised the issue again in the last week. They have claimed that a reduction in speed could save 3.7 billion litres of petrol and diesel, as well as 9.2 million tonnes of CO2.

They’re not only suggesting an introduction of a speed limit of 100 km/h on motorways, but also a reduction from 120 to 80 km/h on country roads and from 50 to 30 km/h inside towns for the duration of the current crisis.
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Driving slower may inadvertently slow down the machine of the UK; deliveries take longer, perishable food lasts less, people spend longer in their cars commuting to and fro having to leave earlier and arrive home later. The clockwork of the whole country would need to be adjusted accordingly.

On the positive side the government would make bank on the amount speeding fines handed out during the suggested Great Sensible Speed Prohibition of '22.
 
I'm still not convinced it would actually do much for fuel consumption in the real world - it might seem like it on paper but as I've mentioned before I've found it very hard to get any meaningful economy difference from speed differences (especially if you are dealing with the inevitable mixed traffic conditions) and the only thing which makes a noticeable, but not huge, difference is how much you can keep momentum up or not.

It seems more ideology based on the science under ideal circumstances than something which actually is attainable to any meaningful extent in real world driving.

EDIT: And given any Greenpeace involvement it is probably more aimed at annoying/frustrating drivers than any actual attempt to do something constructive for the environment.
 
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Rroff said:
I'm still not convinced it would actually do much for fuel consumption in the real world - it might seem like it on paper but as I've mentioned before I've found it very hard to get any meaningful economy difference from speed differences (especially if you are dealing with the inevitable mixed traffic conditions) and the only thing which makes a noticeable, but not huge, difference is how much you can keep momentum up or not.

It seems more ideology based on the science under ideal circumstances than something which actually is attainable to any meaningful extent in real world driving.

EDIT: And given any Greenpeace involvement it is probably more aimed at annoying/frustrating drivers than any actual attempt to do something constructive for the environment.
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We are talking about barely a few minutes per average commute journey for every 10 mph faster you go.
 
Top speed doesn't affect fuel consumption much anyway, I mean pushing past 60/70 yes, but most cars are the most fuel efficient in whatever the highest gear is at low RPM.

My petrol 1.6l turbo Volvo is most fuel efficient in 6th gear about 55/60mph it'll do 50+mpg which is insane really.

Hard acceleration is what does it, also not driving smoothly, leaving braking distance so you don't have to stop and start, but rather only slow down a bit.

Out of curiosity and because of this fuel thing I decided to see what I could do, on a tank with my normal driving, I get between 350-380 miles, this tank I got 550 miles, mainly because of very light acceleration and changing up through the gears at low rpm.

So an absolutely massive difference.

I wouldn't say I was necessarily driving much slower though overall.
 
SUL up to €2.20

**** this :mad:

This is daylight robbery now. Oil companies are making record profits and the price of petrol is DOUBLE what it was 2 years ago (albeit at the height of lockdown). Total ******* ********. *****.
 
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