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GDPR and stuff

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ace Modder, 20 Apr 2018.

  1. stockhausen

    Capodecina

    Joined: 30 Jul 2006

    Posts: 12,144

    You will probably have been getting lots of emails, etc. asking you to acknowledge that Internet companies can continue to gather data on you.
    Facebook has taken the opportunity to get you to agree to facial recognition - e.g. on any photos you may post. I am sure that others (e.g. Microsoft, Google, Twitter, etc.) have done something equally dubious.

    Meanwhile CCleaner has decided to "encourage" users to install Chrome when applying updates.


    Any EULA or Contract Acceptance that appears to assume that you run it by a Barrister specialising in Intellectual Property Law before signing up to it should automatically be deemed to be criminal solicitation, exposing the crook who gets users to sign up to it to detention on Saint Helena.
     
  2. Reginald

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 24 Aug 2008

    Posts: 1,312

    Location: London

    I'm using this as one big email unsubscribe exercise. If you don't respond, you don't receive any more :cool: Might help with the 65,000 unread emails in my inbox
     
  3. Kol

    Capodecina

    Joined: 8 Jan 2003

    Posts: 13,988

    Location: London

    For anyone who doesn't want to read all T&C's there is a great site called tosdr.org which gives an overview. They are adding more as time goes by.
     
  4. shorttricky

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 15 Feb 2010

    Posts: 1,070

    Depends how common the name is :D

    If you're called John Smith, it's not considered PII (because it doesn't clearly identify you as an individual) - Zachary Z. Zippington-Zebediah on the other hand...

    Obviously if you tag in an address/date of birth or other stuff it becomes much more likely to be considered PII because they look at all the data, not each bit individually.

    Definitely a concern though - Whatsapp has agreed that they won't share data with Facebook, and they do still have a month to sort out the contact list issue. Will be an interesting one.
     
  5. tom_nieto

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 11,398

    Location: Birmingham

    Surely on a personal level this can’t be enforced? If Paul is a customer of John then John cannot share this information without Paul’s consent. However if Paul is a friend of John and John passes on the information to a mutual friend because they have lost their phone and their contacts then that’s ok.

    I see no reason to share my contacts with any app which isn’t a communications platform. Having to manually input each contact that you want to use in WhatsApp would be extremely tiresome. Giving a “what cat are you?” quiz my contact information is silly.
     
  6. krooton

    Caporegime

    Joined: 9 May 2004

    Posts: 27,325

    Location: Leafy outskirts of London

    You can still be emailed (for a reasonable amount of time) under soft opt in rules if you have transacted with them.
     
  7. SideWinder

    Consigliere

    Joined: 12 Jun 2004

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    Location: RH20

    Added a few girls on whatsapp from Bumble/Tinder and then they appear on 'people i may know' a week or so later. Useful tbh. Get to see more. :p
     
  8. 413x

    Capodecina

    Joined: 13 Jan 2010

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    Location: Llaneirwg

    It' ppretty dangerous this. I hate Facebook and its practices for this stuff. What if one guy is a real serious weirdo. Damage is done. And not everyone understands enough to know that whataspp is designed to do for Facebook
     
  9. ic1male

    Caporegime

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    Location: Westchestershire

    That's exactly what I'd expect them to do but most forums just say log out and don't come back. I don't know any of the forums I use where they've gone and deleted all posts when someone leaves so it's going to be interesting.
     
  10. Russinating

    Capodecina

    Joined: 27 Dec 2005

    Posts: 16,625

    Location: Bristol

    Deleting all posts by an account on a forum is probably one of the easiest GDPR tasks to action since they're all linked to the same account ID. A simple, single SQL line would do all the work for you.

    It's when someone's data is spread that it becomes more difficult which is why companies are supposed to do an audit so they can inform people what data they hold within the legal timeframe (3 weeks is it?).

    Hell, you can publicly search for all data a forum a holds on you. You could even in theory edit all posts yourself... it'd just take ages.
     
  11. ic1male

    Caporegime

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    What about quotes and things? Your text is in my post so I guess it wouldn't be deleted?
     
  12. Rroff

    Man of Honour

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    "People you may know" has some very strange behaviour and definitely some "interesting" workings behind the scenes :s
     
  13. Russinating

    Capodecina

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    True, still doable though. Quotes contain the member id, so you'd just need to do a SQL content search looking for that, and delete the quote.

    Anything you put on the internet is never truly deletable - who knows who else has made a copy of it, or made it untrackable (removing the member ID from quotes for example can be done by other users) - and if anything GDPR will just make people aware of what information they willingly disclose or divulge.
     
  14. LeeUK

    Soldato

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    Under this new GDPR, will you be able to request all the data the police have on you?
     
  15. Tefal

    Capo Crimine

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    It' not whatsapp its the face book app having access to thier contacts.

    Same thing would have happened if he had jist normally text them
     
  16. Stolly

    Mobster

    Joined: 11 Mar 2004

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    Er no they aren't. I work at one, a US one as it goes. We are in fact going to some expense to keep data on EU citizens in the EU (for now this means the UK too, the UK will not diverge from GDPR anytime soon)
     
  17. Stolly

    Mobster

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    No. Well, you can request, but you won't get. The police also will not delete your data on request.
     
  18. OspreyO

    Mobster

    Joined: 12 Dec 2006

    Posts: 3,782

    Whats happening with GDPR.

    OcUK is one of the few forums I've not had a email from about this.
    Either an updated data agreement.
    The right to be forgotten if you close your account.
     
  19. skyripper

    Wise Guy

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    :)
     
  20. Maccy

    Commissario

    Joined: 23 Nov 2004

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    Location: Herts

    AFAIK, GDPR only applies to personal data, so things like name, address, DOB, email etc. So yes, you could request those details but that's all we store.

    For the store, however, I don't know how much data is stored so you would need to contact them directly.