Gearbox/clutch fitting.

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Alright guys, clutch release bearing appears to have shattered into a million pieces. While I was pricing up a brand new clutch for about 50/60 quid. I found a bargain 20k mile gearbox from an 03 plate car with brand new OE clutch for £70 and car its in can be driven to proove it works great. Bargain :)

So thats that sorted, how much will labour be do you think for this kinda job on a saxo? Alternatively do you think I could do this job myself? I've got plenty of time to do it over the next week, all the tools required, a haynes manual, and enthusiastic friends to help but sadly no experience with this kinda job. I service my car myself including fitting new exhaust, unseizing rear caliper and all the other general jobs but thats about it. Or shall I just leave it to a garage?

Just making sure the car is mint before I sell it :)
 
Probably take a few hours, say 3? I'd imagine it would be quite tight down there. Independant garages prices vary but say £30-£40 per hour. Just depends how flush you are. :)

I personally wouldn't attempt it :o But then I'm hopeless with anything like that.

EDIT - You're selling it? Sod that get a cheap 2nd hand low milage clutch and wack that in.
 
TripleT said:
EDIT - You're selling it? Sod that get a cheap 2nd hand low milage clutch and wack that in.
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Not really any about, goin for about £40+ on ebay for second hand clutches with a brand new one for 70 quid.

This chap is selling a 20k mile gearbox and 200 mile old valeo clutch off his smashed up vtr for £70. Don't think I will do better than that and 20k mile gearbox has got to be better than a 65k gearbox and then I'll wack my old one on ebay and probably get £50 for it! :)
 
Fairy 'muff see your point.

If you go with a garage find out the extra cost of fitting a clutch AND the 'box. Clutch I'd say was pretty straight forward on it's own. But I'm just guessing really :)
 
TripleT said:
Fairy 'muff see your point.

If you go with a garage find out the extra cost of fitting a clutch AND the 'box. Clutch I'd say was pretty straight forward on it's own. But I'm just guessing really :)
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Well seeing as the box is gonna have to be split from the engine to get to the clutch I wouldn't have thought it would be much more to get the gearbox fitted at the same time.
 
Not sure which Saxo model you have, but labour for fitting the box should be the same as the clutch (included I mean) as it's no different changing a clutch and putting on a new box as it is changing the clutch and putting on the old box.

Edit: Basically what you've just said above! :D Depending on what car you've got i'd say you'd probably be looking at about £150 labour for the lot (probably what i'd charge at work). It's possible to do yourself but not easy if you're going to be laying on your back under the car. A pit or car lift will make things easier. :)
 
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2 person job due to the lifting and placing of the gearbox?

as said tho, if you have access to a ramp or pit then it wont be that bad :]
 
I've just had to spend £300 on a gearbox for the Volvo, its quite an awkward job and definetly needs two people, but should be done in about 3 - 4 hours.

Burnsy
 
I've done 3 clutch changes on 106s, once by myself on my own car. It's not a hard job really. The only real pain is getting the driveshaft nuts off as they use centerless wheels (This is assuming you are using OE wheels) so you can't take the initial bite off the nut while the car is on the floor. The best war around it is to put a screwdriver between the vents on the disks, it will stop against the caliper and allow you to get the driveshaft nuts off when the wheel is off the hub. Then it's just a case of removing the 'shafts, disconnecting the speedo drive and earth straps, mounts off and unbolt it from the engine.

It's easier with two or more people but not impossible to do yourself.
 
Have access to a pit, have plenty of friends who can help and also I've got speedline wheels with centre caps that can be removed.

May attempt it myself :)

Coco said:
Le' Cup? :)
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Yep :)
 
can be done easily yourself if your competant.
jack up car on axle stands remove wheels,
chock up engine,
remove startermotor,
drain gearbox fluid,
remove driveshafts,
loosen gearbox bolts,
loosen lefthand gearbox mount,
unclip gear linkages,
disconect clutch cable + speedo drive and anyother cables/wires.
remove earth wire grounded onto gearbox.
undo left hand subframe bolts and drop subframe to make the job a hell of a lot easier (mainly when reassembling gives you a lot more room to line it up if your on your own)
remove all bolts and pull gearbox out.
remove old clutch,
check flywheel for damage and clean up,
replace with new clutch,
add small amount of greese onto gearbox drive
reasemble with new driveshaft oil seals to prevent gearbox leaks
refil gearbox with oil

the centre cap removal makes it a lot easier to remove the driveshafts, the hhub niuts can be insanely tight so you take wheel off push out centre put wheel back on drop car back to ground and give the nut some beanz with a breaker bar. Afair the socket you will need is 35 or 36mm.

takes me about 3 hours on my own to drop gearbox and replace on my 306, although i have done it a fair few times now.Saxo is similar but a little less room more like my 205 was (why i suggest dropping the subframe).
 
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buy the box and clutch....£70


then sell other on Ebay or other forum....£50ish......


bingo fixed for £20 and a few hours labour + tea and/or coffee(for friends and helpers)

and it shouldn't be that hard to do.if your willing to learn then thats fine.


bullit
 
I'd stick with the gearbox you currently have, rather than change it for no reason. You don't know for sure that the newer one is any better. but you do know your current gearbox is fine.
just sell the new gearbox on ebay.
 
Zuma said:
I'd stick with the gearbox you currently have, rather than change it for no reason. You don't know for sure that the newer one is any better. but you do know your current gearbox is fine.
just sell the new gearbox on ebay.
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Yeah the current one isn't great, it works but it crunches into third when redlining it in second and you need to double clutch it to get it in reverse. And I drove the car the new gearbox came out of and it seemed great. Might have a go at rebuilding the old one myself.

Anyway new box should be back on today :)
 
Ive got this looming on the cards like you!

Crunches into 3rd etc, Im going to go fo a clutch change too, but just a word of caution! Make sure the clutch is aligned properly before bolting it onto the flywheel end and make doubly sure that you've tentioned all the bolts back onto the 'box at their specified torques!

It could either fall off, or worse you could overtighten and have it sheer off in the block... Not a fun job to sort out..
 
Well I think its stupid. If I was buying a car and the owner said 'oh yeah, its got a new gearbox and clutch' i'd be like why!?

If they said, 'yer, its got a new clutch' i'd be like..'nice touch', thanks

It can ring warning bells to some people. Depends if you mention it or not though.
 
Oracle said:
Well I think its stupid. If I was buying a car and the owner said 'oh yeah, its got a new gearbox and clutch' i'd be like why!?
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Because its worn out? Choice between old knackered box or nice new low mileage box then I know which I'd rather have. Its a 7 year old warm hatchback not a year old prestiege beemer, its bound to have had problems and things wear out.
 
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