Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

[Kaapstad]

And the 690's even worst! £800 for 2gb pssssssttt!!

lol

The only good thing about it is I have never run out of vram @1600p using two of them in sli

Having said that I would never recommend one to someone using 5760 x 1080.

 

[Kaapstad]

Maybe but you're looking at it too simplistically. It's not just as simple as having more, it's having the grunt to push playable frame rates which actually exceed said VRAM limit.

+1

In Crysis 3 maxed out on a single Titan it can use over 3gbs of vram @1600p, unfortunately 22fps is not really playable.

 

[Kaapstad]

If the GTX 770 is just a rebadged GTX 680 with higher clocks, I wonder if NVidia have nobbled the GTX 770 to stop people going SLI with a GTX 680 and 770.

I bet they have.

 

[Kaapstad]

So you start by saying , no. Then go onto to agree with me.

Lmao !

Say what you want, and clearly you do, but I remember the reviews where MP3 was shown to use well over 3GB of vram. So, sorry, and I say sorry quite wrongly in your case, but yes it does destroy 2GB of vram.

Could you provide some benches showing settings, memory use and fps please.

 

[Kaapstad]

Now you're asking me to dig up a review I saw over a year ago ? I'll try and find it and post here if I do.

In the mean time, here's a YT vid I found in a second to show what I was talking about. The poster says he is using over 4GB of Vram.

So you are telling me you can run it maxed out on a pair of 2gb cards.

I have also just watched it in some videos running maxed on a gtx 690.

 

[Kaapstad]

I'm not telling you anything except that the game can destroy 2GB of vram under certain settings. I remember seeing a review where a guy did just that. It was something that irked me at the time because I only had a 580 with 1.5GB of vram and I could see that I could max that easily just by turning everything to full.

We really need to see someone running maxed settings (8x MSAA) on a single GPU with acceptable fps

I have also just read plenty of posts that say Max Payne 3 does not report memory usage correctly when using sli/xfire.

I have also read posts saying 8x MSAA is broken on Max Payne 3, but I will keep an open mind on that.

 

[Kaapstad]

Necessary or not it demonstrates the point I was making. Personally, I ran the game with my humble 580 (1.5GB) and it looked sweet. Kaapstad could run it with his 4 titans and I'm sure it would look sweet too, but is that necessary ? lol

If it had an in game benchmark I would download it and give it a run. Unfortunately I am useless at those sort of games and anything I could produce in results would be very poor.

 

[Kaapstad]

To hell with it, I am downloading Max Payne 3 now, I will run around in it a few times and get myself slaughter and report back on memory usage.

 

[Kaapstad]

I just loaded MP3 to check my card on max.

A better single GPU with more vram on a higher res would clearly smash my result of just over 2GB.

Also, the vram usage broken issue was fixed long ago.

I will test memory usage in GPUz, the thing to remember about whatever results I get is with 6gbs to play with the game will cache some extra.

 

[Kaapstad]

Results

This is the settings for 1080p and the memory the game claimed I would use

This is what really happened, Max memory used 1.728gbs. On a single card it was 1.49gbs but I didn't bother with pics

This is the settings for 1600p and the memory the game claimed I would use

This is what really happened, Max memory used 2.240gbs. On a single card it was 2.0gbs but again I didn't bother with pics

The other thing to remember with lots of free vram available the game will cache it which probably pushed the usage higher than really needed.

 

[Kaapstad]

Thanks Kaapstad.

Out of interest, did you take those memory measurements from in game play or just from the Graphics Settings screen ? I'm curious because I suspect you would not see true vram usage till you actually had the game running.

The game was running and I was doing my best to rescue the broad while jumping over the balcony.

 

[Kaapstad]

do we know yet if these will be available to buy on the 23rd? im looking forward to some OcUK user reviews

hurry up and show us a pyramid Gibbo

Talking about reviews, when will the review sites be doing theirs. Will it also be the 23rd or will it be tomorrow.

 

[Kaapstad]

Is there anyone here who has said they will be getting a GTX 780 or 770

 

[Kaapstad]

I have predicted that the GTX 780 will be within 5% of the Titan for a while now, the worrying part about this if true is that the price will be within a £100 of a Titan too.

The cheapest Titan at the moment is this at £799.99

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-171-GW&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1576

So we are looking at a price of £699.99 or even a few quid over £700

Nvidia are not going to leave a gap in pricing much bigger than this, as they are making too much money with the high Titan sales.

 

[Kaapstad]

I do hope you are wrong as that will be a massive fail by Nvidia. For that price you may as well have a Titan and 6Gb Vram.

Titan was a unique product with a single purpose. The 780 is a mainstream but top of the range card. £700+ will just see a lot of people just stick 2 fingers up to Nvidia. If that happens, I am getting 2 7970s and putting them under water till the next gen comes along.

If the gap is too big NVidia may as well all but give up making the Titan in any numbers.

Turkeys don't vote for xmas.

 

[Kaapstad]

I read earlier in the thread about Titan owners will be raging if these results are true but I for one hope they are true. Games are requiring more grunt of late (FarCry3/Crysis3/Tomb Raider etc) and for us forum enthusiasts at least, if the price is semi decent <£500, I can see some very happy 780 owners. I certainly won't be raging and as many of us here enjoy bigger than normal screens (resolutions) and multi screens with very high details, this kind of grunt is needed. If we are all honest with ourselves, we would like nothing more than to play every game with the highest possible settings and at a very decent frame rate but not everyone wants a dual card system to obtain those settings, so a 780 is a viable option if the price is right.

I hope Kaap is wrong and these cards do come in at sub £500 (I doubt that I am right). Having seen the price for ~$719 I think it was on an American site, there is hope

I think the only thing that will possiblely give a lower price is how much NVidia/users value the 3gbs difference in vram.

 

[Kaapstad]

Titan is not a Ltd run

+1

They have sold more Titans in 3 months than they have GTX 690s in a year.

 

[Kaapstad]

It's nice for me to be wrong.

Over £500 but under £600

Not bad for what is essentially a Mini-Titan

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=24323887&postcount=18

 

[Kaapstad]

I'd be genuinely gutted if I'd bought a Titan unless I needed that 6GB Ram, I can see there being some angry Titan owners but it's their own fault, technology moves fast.

Nope

I am very happy with mine.

There may be some angry GTX 780 owners out there in 2 or 3 years time when they realise that 3gbs of vram won't do it anymore.

 

[Kaapstad]

I don't think you understand - a hierarchy implies at least some degree of rigidity. You can't keep creating a new hierarch every new year or so . What the chart from them shows is the 770 replacing the 680 in performance terms which is fine. But the 770 still replaces the 670 hierarchically.

Titan was the exception and was an anomaly outside the normal line up. The Titan never formed part of their normal line up, hence its name. They kind of shoehorned themselves in by releasing the Titan prior to 700 series and ideally as a customer you'd have wanted the Titan as the 780 and so on.

I don't think NVidia consider the Titan as part of the 7 series, every time I go to their site for drivers the Titan is listed in there with the 6 series.