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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

not if the initial stock was say only a couple of hundred cards..of that no one knows whether it was a success, what are the odds of it being a bigger seller than they 10 series were at launch?
 
Investors are chuffed as **** - all initial launch stock sold out globally within 72 hours. They are rubbing their hands with glee.

To be fair pretty much anyone can get credit for £1000 so the price isn't a barrier to those that want them. They can always lower the price if they don't sell.

As for selling out, that's easy to manipulate, just release limited numbers in the first few weeks. Build up anticipation and the fear of missing out and paying even more later, sell even more cards lol
 
not if the initial stock was say only a couple of hundred cards..of that no one knows whether it was a success, what are the odds of it being a bigger seller than they 10 series were at launch?
A few hundred cards....globally? I expect they have sold at least 10s of thousands and probably a lot more than that. Doing a run of "a couple of hundred" cards would be incredibly stupid from a manufacturing perspective and not at all cost effective for a commercial production line. Looking at different enthusiast forums in different countries I am seeing hundreds of people buying these cards and you can bet that a lot more people outside of these communities have as well. "couple of hundred cards"... seriously...
 
...some of the above posts. Come on guys, gets your orders in! :D
Your dissatisfaction is clouding your thoughts. I mean single digits over the 1080 Ti. I'm no GPU expert but even I can see the 2080 Ti has 20% more cores than the 1080 Ti and then there's the new memory, new architecture.
As for manipulating the market, I really doubt that, and could potentially be deemed as illegal (no idea of the US laws) but at least would be widely frowned upon. But it wouldn't be good for your business to push out deliveries to October then say they're out of stock just for the hell of it, to try to drum up demand.
If NV only sold 500 Ti's, then it's still a success if that's really all they have initially. I'm sure it's in the thousands but lets just say it is say 500, they're out of stock regardless of how many they had to sell. Due to the big die maybe they won't be able to sell these in huge numbers initially and may even count for some of the pricing but it's still a success if all they had initially has been sold out. They're not stupid, their products will also be priced on how much they can supply, ie, the lower the expected supply, the higher the predicted demand = higher pricing to maximise profit per item they can sell.

2080 still available for pre-order.

it's a bummer some have to wait so long for deliveries. And I really think Jen and the NVidia business are way too smart to try to trick (**** off) customers by holding back reviews and then delivering a product that many will then regard as disappointing once the reality is out. They deserve more recognition for the great business that they are (same as AMD recently for their CPU side of things). Of course I could end up eating my words here, but I really doubt it.

I understand people wanting to see stats/reviews but I don't get the continued negative speculation, stating things that often don't make sense. Then again this is the speculation thread I suppose :).
 
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A few hundred cards....globally? I expect they have sold at least 10s of thousands and probably a lot more than that. Doing a run of "a couple of hundred" cards would be incredibly stupid from a manufacturing perspective and not at all cost effective for a commercial production line. Looking at different enthusiast forums in different countries I am seeing hundreds of people buying these cards and you can bet that a lot more people outside of these communities have as well. "couple of hundred cards"... seriously...

do you know exactly how many 20xx cards were sold compared to the 10xx at launch?
no?
then you don't know if it was a success do you...seriously.

now I'm sure a ton of cards were sold,it could be 3000 or 30,000 for all we know,that doesn't make it a success if the 10 series sold 100,000 at launch.
 
Do we think Nvidia saw one of those steam surveys saying most people game at 1080p 60 and thought, hey why are we only selling cheap cards to those guys, we should make expensive cards for them as well. :p
 
Do we think Nvidia saw one of those steam surveys saying most people game at 1080p 60 and thought, hey why are we only selling cheap cards to those guys, we should make expensive cards for them as well. :p

hahaha how true... :P
that might explain also Intel CPUs pricing :P
 
do you know exactly how many 20xx cards were sold compared to the 10xx at launch?
no?
then you don't know if it was a success do you...seriously.

now I'm sure a ton of cards were sold,it could be 3000 or 30,000 for all we know,that doesn't make it a success if the 10 series sold 100,000 at launch.
They have sold out globally - so it was a success, period. You cannot get more successful than selling out your entire stock...
 
A few hundred cards....globally? I expect they have sold at least 10s of thousands and probably a lot more than that. Doing a run of "a couple of hundred" cards would be incredibly stupid from a manufacturing perspective and not at all cost effective for a commercial production line. Looking at different enthusiast forums in different countries I am seeing hundreds of people buying these cards and you can bet that a lot more people outside of these communities have as well. "couple of hundred cards"... seriously...

Does anyone remember Pascal launch? First few waves of AIB cards were like 10-15 per model.
 
They have sold out globally - so it was a success, period. You cannot get more successful than selling out your entire stock...
You cannot be more successful than achieving all your goals.

Person A wants to cure cancer
Person B wants to watch as much daytime TV as possible.

Neither can be more successful than the other if they both achieve their goals :p

That's basically the same argument :p
 
You cannot be more successful than achieving all your goals.

Person A wants to cure cancer
Person B wants to watch as much daytime TV as possible.

Neither can be more successful than the other if they both achieve their goals :p

That's basically the same argument :p

Did Nvidia want to sell their entire stock of RTX 2080 Ti: "Yes"
Did Nvidia sell their entire stock of RTX 2080 Ti: "Yes"
Was the RTX 2080 Ti product launch a success: YES

It is really that simple. Anyone who thinks it was not a successful launch is utterly delusional.
 
You have absolutely no idea what state their supply is, so you can't draw any conclusions from the website saying sold out.

"What's that Barry? We won't have more than a couple hundred units ready by September? That's fine, just launch it and sell them out and those mugs online will think they're flying out the door and FOMO them all up when we get volume out"
 
You have absolutely no idea what state their supply is, so you can't draw any conclusions from the website saying sold out.

"What's that Barry? We won't have more than a couple hundred units ready by September? That's fine, just launch it and sell them out and those mugs online will think they're flying out the door and FOMO them all up when we get volume out"
Even if they only sold a couple of hundred, even if they only sold 1 - if their supply for launch was 1, 200, 50000, 2000000 and they sold them all - it is a ****ing success - what is so difficult to understand about that? They had a launch quota, they met that launch quota, launch was a success.
 
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