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would you really consider one yourself ? - I think GD would have a hay day with that kind of prosthetic

a bracket like this on boiler wall would give 500mm side shift

We actually had the TV bed a few years back, and a corner sofa :D

That kind of mount is what I am thinking, but it has to be in the corner near the ensuite as the plugs and aerial socket are there.

Measured up and the max width with no window overhang is 87cm, 32" it is, which can be on the ensuite wall for better angling.
 
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Dang, it's finally happened, OLED hit my price point, a new 55" OLED is available for less than 1000 EUR. It happens just as I've splurged on a new phone and coughed up loads of money on flights for various friend's weddings :'(
 
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Seemingly some good deals popping up on HUKD as there is a 10% off eBay deal on till tomorrow.

SAMSUNG UE55NU7020 55" Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR LED TV - £386.10 delivered

Seems to review pretty well and under £400 seems a bargain, has anyone else noticed any good deals out there?

Looking for a 55" minimum and less than £400, will just be used for general netflix, plex and youtube etc.

Cheers
 
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Seemingly some good deals popping up on HUKD as there is a 10% off eBay deal on till tomorrow.

SAMSUNG UE55NU7020 55" Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR LED TV - £386.10 delivered

Seems to review pretty well and under £400 seems a bargain, has anyone else noticed any good deals out there?

Looking for a 55" minimum and less than £400, will just be used for general netflix, plex and youtube etc.

Cheers

I'd grab that then, don't think there's a better deal out there.
 
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LG E8 super tempting at the moment. It has a built in “soundbar”. I assume my YSP1400 is still better? Also does the soundbar block part of the screen? The screen seems to sit quite low.
 
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LG OLED55C9PLA

Seems to be available now in curry’s etc....... its £2499.. I currently have a 49” samsung ks8000 which has been great but fancied OLED and i am a sucker for new things. What do people reckon, will it be an upgrade? :) I watch a ton of 4K content and also game every now and then
 
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LG OLED55C9PLA

Seems to be available now in curry’s etc....... its £2499.. I currently have a 49” samsung ks8000 which has been great but fancied OLED and i am a sucker for new things. What do people reckon, will it be an upgrade? :) I watch a ton of 4K content and also game every now and then

I wouldn’t buy it now, this TV will be at least £1k cheaper by Black Friday. Picking up a c8 or e8 for £1500 now would be a better buy if you can’t wait IMO.
 
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I wouldn’t buy it now, this TV will be at least £1k cheaper by Black Friday. Picking up a c8 or e8 for £1500 now would be a better buy if you can’t wait IMO.

The money side doesn’t bother me too much as long as it is an upgrade. From what I’ve seen looks good so far, just swapping my 5.1 Playbar/sub/Sonos ones Sonos setup too for the samsung n950 so hoping that’s a upgrade too
 
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I'd love a 77C9 this year, but I don't think I could ever justify spending that sort of cash on a TV

It's £7500 at the moment which is insane. It could drop to £4999 but that still seems ridiculous for an extra 12 inches of screen space over what I currently have.

I might just pickup a 65C9 in November for £2000ish
 
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The money side doesn’t bother me too much as long as it is an upgrade. From what I’ve seen looks good so far, just swapping my 5.1 Playbar/sub/Sonos ones Sonos setup too for the samsung n950 so hoping that’s a upgrade too

Fair enough, the code OLED200 should bring the price down to £2299 at richer sounds.
 
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Any concrete info on VRR / 120hz support or benchmarks? What range is supported etc. I think I'll wait until next gen consoles to upgrade, but good to know if 2019 models can do it.
 
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I want to buy once and buy right. Looking for a tv 55" that ticks all the boxes for movie watching bit lacking on the old research with all the new fangled information out there its a minefield to pick the right tv.

Was looking at the sony Oled line up but thats a decent chunk for a 55". I don't mind spending £2k any recommendations?

Would be playing consoles on it too now and then.
 
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I want to buy once and buy right. Looking for a tv 55" that ticks all the boxes for movie watching bit lacking on the old research with all the new fangled information out there its a minefield to pick the right tv.

Was looking at the sony Oled line up but thats a decent chunk for a 55". I don't mind spending £2k any recommendations?

Would be playing consoles on it too now and then.

LG B8, it's around £1.1k. The upper models are a bit more refined in certain aspects but not even close to £1k-3k worth.
 
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Instead of the 430,000-plus that IHS Markit forecast in October for 2019 worldwide 8K TV shipments, the London-based research firm now predicts that only 138,500 will ship this year. And, instead of nearly 2 million 8K sets in 2020, it now calls for 630,100.
Maria Rua Aguete, executive director for technology, media and telecommunication at IHS, shared this downgraded forecast April 26 at the IFA Global Press Conference in Punta Umbría, Spain. But, Rua Aguete’s presentation at this event, hosted by the organizers of the IFA electronics trade show in Berlin, glossed over much of the bad news.
For instance, an estimate of just 18,600 8K sets shipped in 2018 hid a count of only 200 shipped in North America. The balance went to Europe (9,000, with most in western Europe), Japan (6,600), China (1,500) and the rest of the Asia-Pacific market (1,300).
In an email to FierceVideo, Rua Aguete characterized the U.S. market as place where retailers remain unconvinced on 8K and only a single Samsung SKU (85-inch) was listed.
IHS—which in 2015 looked pessimistic for predicting shipments of only 911,000 8K TVs in 2019—doesn’t have much higher expectations for the U.S. in the following years. To wit: 43,900 8K sets will be shipped in 2019, 258,600 in 2020, 547,700 in 2021, and 843,400 in 2022.
IHS analyst Paul Gray emailed FierceVideo, indicating that the firm revised its earlier forecasts in March, saying “retailer interest in the U.S. was very weak, and in China brands were far less enthusiastic than we had expected.”
In contrast, the Consumer Technology Association forecast released at CES in January called for U.S. 8K shipments to hit 200,000 in 2019, 500,000 in 2020, 1.2 million in 2021 and 1.5 million in 2022.
CTA spokeswoman Danielle Cassagnol said that the trade group would revisit all these numbers in July’s update to this forecast, but meanwhile, those figures stand.
Analyst Mark Vena of Moor Insights & Strategy, who watched Rua Aguete’s IFA GPC presentation, said he agreed with her assessment.
“I’ve always been a bit skeptical of 8K’s appeal with mainstream consumers,” he emailed. “Major headwind factors include still not enough meaningful content that clearly demonstrates 8K’s improved video quality (especially vs. 4K); continued sluggishness with the cable providers to upgrade their set top boxes (and the infrastructure) to provide 8K content; and the ongoing availability of very good 4K TVs at terrific (especially sub-$1,500) pricing.”
The biggest TV firm exhibiting at IFA GPC underscored that last point: TCL, which said it’s now the No. 2 vendor worldwide by shipment volume, said it will sell a 55-inch 4K set in Europe for just €699. TCL will also bring 8K sets to the EU market, but they will occupy the highest slot among 11 product lines—three still only HD.
TV[R]EV lead analyst Alan Wolk was as pessimistic as Vena.
“I think the industry is still struggling to make 4K a thing, so I don’t see 8K happening any time soon,” he said in an email. “There may be some special effects movies that benefit from it, but otherwise I don’t see a lot of demand, either for the content or for the TVs.”
Japan—the one market with 8K broadcasts already available, thanks to NHK’s move to push that as part of its coverage of the 2020 Summer Olympics there—doesn’t figure too large in IHS’s latest forecasts either.
“Shipments will still be low at just over 80,000 in 2020,” Gray said. He blamed a “generalized preference for much smaller screen sizes – sizes below where even 4K starts,” and a strong start for OLED screens, which already hold a 45% share of 65-inch screens there.
It’s China that looks to become 8K’s brightest market: IHS now forecasts that shipments will surge to 46,000 in 2019 and then 369,000 in 2020. But that, Gray explained, mainly reflects cultural and supply-chain factors.
“TVs are a status symbol in China in the way they are not in the U.S. or Europe,” he said, citing lower car ownership and smaller homes. “Furthermore, the Chinese market has brutal pricing – 65 inches is a break-even product, all smaller sizes loss-making!”
Asked what might change 8K’s fortunes back in the U.S., Vena suggested that 8K vendors push compelling native content instead of counting on up-scaled 4K fare—although without support from cable TV, that will require exceptionally fast broadband connections untrammeled by data caps.
“The industry may need to hang its hat on promoting upcoming, highly prominent events (like the Olympics) that will best enjoyed on 75-inch class screens and have the best chance of showing the superior image quality,” he said. Then he added a caveat: “To put this in perspective, even last year’s World Series wasn’t broadcast in 4K.”

Damn, I guess it really is too early still.
 
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LG E8 super tempting at the moment. It has a built in “soundbar”. I assume my YSP1400 is still better? Also does the soundbar block part of the screen? The screen seems to sit quite low.
I can confirm the sound bar sits perfectly flush with the bottom of the screen so all good. The only issue I have is I can’t get it to learn the volume control. I’ve followed the instructions and get the positive beep but afterwards it doesn’t work still.
 
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