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Poll: General Election 2019 voting intention - Dec 1st - 7th

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Rilot, Dec 2, 2019.


Who will you vote for?

  1. Brexit

    5 vote(s)
  2. Conservative

    96 vote(s)
  3. DUP

    0 vote(s)
  4. Green

    2 vote(s)
  5. Labour

    113 vote(s)
  6. Liberal Democrat

    84 vote(s)
  7. Plaid Cymru

    1 vote(s)
  8. Sinn Fein

    1 vote(s)
  9. SNP

    12 vote(s)
  10. TIG

    0 vote(s)
  11. UKIP

    1 vote(s)
  12. Other party

    4 vote(s)
  13. Independant

    3 vote(s)
  14. Spoil ballott

    4 vote(s)
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  1. loftie


    Joined: Oct 17, 2009

    Posts: 994

    Pulled from wiki because I'm lazy, number in brackets is the UK number from the 2011 census

    number of jews globally 14.5million (270k)
    number of hindus globally 1.15 billion (835k)
    number of buddhists globally 521 million (262k)

    and just for **** and giggles

    number of christians globally 2.4 billion (37.584m)
    number of muslims globally 1.9 billion (2.787m)
    number of sikhs globally 30 million (432k)

    Firstly, why should judaism be mention when hinduism is not? By numbers, it dwarfs it globally and has over 3 times it's number in the uk.
    Secondly, buddhism isn't mentioned, it dwarfs judaism globally and has slightly less numbers in the UK.
    Thirdly, I didn't realise Judaism had so few numbers globally, I'm not sure why it should classify as a major religion to be honest.

    As for needing protection or help, i go back to what about people with mental health issues? According to Mind 1 in 4 people will experience a mental health problem each year. I still think it's clutching at straws and attempting to spin this as discrimination is daft.
  2. garnett


    Joined: Mar 25, 2008

    Posts: 6,518

    I wasn't posting in a vacuum to "score political points" - I was posting figures and articles that disproved Quartz unevidenced assertion that "the Conservatives have been so great at making poor people better off in the last 9 years".

    In terms of actions to solve the problem - I've not studied the options.

    I take it that, despite what you've posted, you're not disputing that it's a problem any Govt needs to take some responsibility for, and to have in place plans to improve the situation, and accountability for their success or failure.
  3. Dirk Diggler


    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 14,286

    No one is suggesting you should pander to anyone. The point being made is that it's a reasonable decision to vote Labour if someone is directly affected and feel they are due compensation. Whether or not there was discrimination is a different thread to the conversation. As for white privilege, what on earth has that got to do with anything other than trying to deflect from the subject bring discussed?
  4. Sankari


    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 25,236

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

    It speaks volumes about the weakness and unpopularity of Labour under Corbyn that they're getting crushed by the most dysfunctional Tory government in living memory.
  5. robgmun


    Joined: Apr 30, 2006

    Posts: 15,933

    Location: London

    Oh...oh dear :o
  6. Sankari


    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 25,236

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

    Several reasons:

    * it's the world's oldest monotheistic religion
    * it's the oldest of the three Abrahamic faiths (the other two are literally based on it)
    * it's one of the world's most influential religions
  7. amigafan2003


    Joined: Jan 18, 2008

    Posts: 16,127

    Location: Fylde Coast, Lancashire

    Yes, I wonder why there aren't so many.

    Maybe they've had a calamity in the recent past that affected their numbers, I don't know.
  8. Quartz


    Joined: Apr 1, 2014

    Posts: 10,948

    Location: Aberdeen

    May got 43% in the 2017 election.
  9. Usher


    Joined: Dec 30, 2004

    Posts: 3,245

    I'm guessing free internet, 1 billion trees planted, public ownership of utilities, 1 million new jobs etc have clearly swayed some of you here to vote Labour ?

    I'm guessing you are young and have no recollection of previous Labour fiasco's . How do you imagine all this will be paid for? a massive rise in borrowing? council tax? income tax?

    Did you know that last time they handed out thousands free laptops to 'poor families' who probably went straight down the pub & sold them?

    Free internet with high speed broadband for everyone ?? don't make me laugh, last time they wanted to add an extra charge to everyone's monthly B/band bill to pay for those without it. Cameron scrapped it in his 1st week.

    Buying back ownership of our utilities, much of which is owned by our EU friends in France Germany etc. I'm sure they will gladly oblige, once again where does the money come from? and the all the staff transferred to a government salary ?

    Council tax actually doubled under the last Labour government resulting in Cameron slapping a freeze as his 1st priority.

    So can we now expect it to double or even triple if Labour get in?
  10. Sankari


    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 25,236

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

    ...and still won. 44% is more than enough for Johnson.

    In all fairness, we've had almost 10 years of Tory fiascos, and they've achieved sod all done in that time except (a) strangle the NHS, (b) give free money to rich people, (c) continue meddling in Middle East wars, (d) preside over near-Dickensian levels of poverty and economic disparity, and (e) **** up Brexit.

    Remember 2015, when the Tories promised to build 200,000 new starter homes, and Tory voters didn't even bother to ask where the money was coming from? None of those houses have been built. Not a single one.
  11. chroniclard


    Joined: Apr 23, 2014

    Posts: 15,932

    Location: Hertfordshire

    Sounds good.
  12. VincentHanna


    Joined: Jul 30, 2013

    Posts: 21,365

    Think she was short of a majority by 4? And bunged the DUP £1 billion to prop her up.
  13. FoxEye


    Joined: Feb 17, 2006

    Posts: 23,630

    Location: Cornwall

    Still LibDem as the best of a bad bunch.

    Did think about voting Green.
  14. Sankari


    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 25,236

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

    I've just checked the figures. Tories actually scored 41% under May. Corbyn's Labour was 31.6%.

    So with Johnson now sitting on 44%, and Corbyn on 34%, it should be an easy walk to No. 10.
  15. Dirk Diggler


    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 14,286

    Who cares how it's paid for, that's the government's problem to solve.

    Seriously, that's the best you can do? :p
  16. JRS


    Joined: Jun 6, 2004

    Posts: 15,281

    Location: Burton-on-Trent

    FullFact - did Labour double council tax?
  17. Sankari


    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 25,236

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

  18. krooton


    Joined: May 9, 2004

    Posts: 26,069

    Location: Leafy outskirts of London

    So many Daily Mail headlines, so little time :D
  19. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior


    Joined: Aug 4, 2007

    Posts: 10,507

    Location: Wilds of suffolk

    The problem with council tax is the majority of those who pay it use the least of the services

    Plus that of course the national government dont set it, the local authorities do

    But lets not let that get in the way of a good uninformed rant ;)
  20. Roar87


    Joined: May 10, 2012

    Posts: 6,619

    Location: Leeds

    Nah, Corbyn is going to pay for it by taking £9 from everyone who earns £80k+, Diane Abbott has done the maths so it's pretty solid
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