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Poll: General Election 2019 voting intention - Dec 1st - 7th

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Rilot, Dec 2, 2019.

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Who will you vote for?

  1. Brexit

    5 vote(s)
    1.5%
  2. Conservative

    96 vote(s)
    29.4%
  3. DUP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Green

    2 vote(s)
    0.6%
  5. Labour

    113 vote(s)
    34.7%
  6. Liberal Democrat

    84 vote(s)
    25.8%
  7. Plaid Cymru

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  8. Sinn Fein

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  9. SNP

    12 vote(s)
    3.7%
  10. TIG

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. UKIP

    1 vote(s)
    0.3%
  12. Other party

    4 vote(s)
    1.2%
  13. Independant

    3 vote(s)
    0.9%
  14. Spoil ballott

    4 vote(s)
    1.2%
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  1. TJM

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Jun 10, 2007

    Posts: 2,341

    I'd be surprised if any credible analysis shows that foreign-born residents with a right to vote in the General Election or second generation immigrants swing a substantial number of London seats to Labour. There are simpler and more convincing explanations for the popularity of Labour in dense urban areas (such as support for the rights of unskilled workers and more money for public amenities) than the white replacement theory.
     
  2. Yozz76

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Aug 13, 2007

    Posts: 1,229

    Location: Wide Ness

    'The nicer you are, the more likely you are to get hurt. So just be a C U Next Thursday'. Can only think that message came from the tory manifesto. Sweet dreams OCUK.
     
  3. garnett

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 25, 2008

    Posts: 5,547

    Regardless of your politics, there's surely nobody so stupid out there to still trust Johnson.

    By contrast, whatever you think of the EU he negotiated on behalf of, I doubt there's anyone disingenuine enough not to recognise that Barnier has always played with a straight bat.

    So then...



    Nobody is in any doubt, then, that a vote for Johnson, is a vote for no-deal Brexit.
     
  4. chroniclard

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 23, 2014

    Posts: 14,319

    Location: Hertfordshire

    Well yeah, bitter right whinging CT peddlers like you are what this is aimed at pointing out. So that the more normal members of society might take a step back and have a think.
     
  5. RDM

    Capodecina

    Joined: Feb 1, 2007

    Posts: 20,232

    Unless he is lying about an extension. It isn't like he doesn't have form.
     
  6. String

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 12,904

    The problem with this message, is that those who voted for Brexit think that any deal isn't Brexit. Therefore, no deal is now the preferred option.

    Any disaster to follow and the Tories will blame it on the opposition. Let's be honest, they're blaming 10 years of Tory government policy on the opposition during this election campaign, and they're getting away with it, so why not the next 10 years of Brexit misery?
     
  7. stockhausen

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jul 30, 2006

    Posts: 10,272

    Nobody should be in any doubt that a vote for Bonker Boris and his democratically press-ganged fellow candidates is a vote for no-deal Brexit.
     
  8. Bald-Eagle22

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Mar 30, 2007

    Posts: 1,869

    Location: Essex

    Labour , Jesus are you lot that delusional.

    Mass unemployment
    3 day week
    Increases in Taxes
    Nationalisation of utilities
    Government asset grabbing,
    Death duties and inheritance tax probably at not far off 100%

    Terrorist sympathiser as a leader and some one who can’t even add up as Home Secretary
    Scrapping of Trident 2 and next to zero budget for our armed forces .

    Good luck with all of that but say good bye to all the wealth creators .
     
  9. JeditOjanen

    Mobster

    Joined: Feb 7, 2011

    Posts: 4,730

    It doesn't matter if he's lying about it. You're voting for it, and he will take it as a mandate. The only way it doesn't happen is if he's forced by Parliament, same as last time, and if he has a majority that won't happen because he's purged the people who would oppose it.
     
  10. thenewoc

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 5,344

    Location: West Sussex, England

    It doesn't boil down to personalities though, under FPTP are you pro free market capitalism or pro Marxist.

    Barnier and the EU shouldn't be interfering in a sovereign nation's own democratic election. Typical EU interference to attempt to shape an outcome to their own desire.

    A vote for Johnson is a vote for the free market and business like prudent investment rather than Corbyn's reckless borrowing.
     
  11. JeditOjanen

    Mobster

    Joined: Feb 7, 2011

    Posts: 4,730

    I don't often agree with robs on this forum, but robgmun is right that Tony Blair is a war criminal. Blair deliberately prosecuted the Second Iraq War in the full knowledge that his casus belli was fraudulent. That is a war crime.

    What Blair isn't, though, is a Labour politician. He was always a Tory in a red rosette, just as the Lib Dems are Thatcherites in yellow rosettes now. The Tories have just pulled so far to the right that Thatcher now looks like a centrist.
     
  12. robgmun

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 30, 2006

    Posts: 15,528

    Location: London

    1) The EU were saying similar stuff about reopening the negotiations, then they folded like a pack of cards in the end, i have no faith when someone from the EU says something is not possible.

    2) A no-deal Brexit is something more and more people are less afraid of as time passes. So the scaremongering isn't working anymore
     
  13. Usher

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 30, 2004

    Posts: 3,186

    Already we have utility companies quietly transferring ownership to offshore companies to protect themselves from Labour, National grid for one.

    Most of them here are too busy bemoaning Bojo & Brexit to notice that Labour would be 100 times worse but they just can't see it.
    Their manifesto is an incredible list of 'we will do this' we will do that' every road & pavement will be repaired or renewed throughout the UK, one million green jobs will be created but paid for by who?, one billion trees planted of which the large majority will rapidly wither and die because the landowners won't tend them as has happened previously, we have acres of dead saplings in nearby fields, tiny saplings need water.
    Free broadband and new laptop for every resident, One million migrants will be invited over and given a new house whilst thousands of UK residents sleep on the street etc.
     
  14. stockhausen

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jul 30, 2006

    Posts: 10,272

    This will be a reference to Eddie Stobart will it?
     
  15. thenewoc

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 5,344

    Location: West Sussex, England

    No but since you've brought it up Eddie Stobart are free to make their own business decisions which is not the case under socialism if your subject to forced state acquisition.
     
  16. matt100

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jul 31, 2004

    Posts: 11,556

    Location: Salisbury

    They folded and let us accept their first offer?

    Woohoo.

    Some of you lot will believe anything you're told to lol.
     
  17. String

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 12,904

    Is this the negotiation that was taking us out on the 31st, come what may? No ifs, no buts... dead in a ditch? Yea, we showed them!

    :p

    Oh, and if point 2 is the case then why did they even bother with point 1?
     
  18. thenewoc

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 9, 2012

    Posts: 5,344

    Location: West Sussex, England

    That was parliament's hand to change the Tory deadline.
     
  19. Mr Jack

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 19, 2004

    Posts: 17,554

    Location: Kiel, Germany

    The EU agreed to further negotiations because Boris folded and offered them the deal that had been rejected by May because it puts a border down the Irish sea. They agreed to put a jaunty hat on it in return.
     
  20. String

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 12,904

    Ah, that pesky democratic process scuppered us again. If only the Tories where aware of this potential banana skin prior to making bold statements about deadlines and ditches. It's almost like, the Tories would have us believe that parliament is something separate from them.
     
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