Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Rilot, Nov 15, 2019.
New voting poll needed I think (2-10th perhaps?)
You seriously think that the Tories 'failed' to deliver Brexit ??? you clearly didn't notice why they 'failed' then did you
They failed, because of infighting and their inability to vote through May's deal when they had a working majority/coalition.
So yes, they failed.
May had a working full Tory majority before her disastrous election gambit.
The failure to deliver Brexit is 100% on the Tories.
It was a Tory project. They proposed it in their manifesto. They instigated the referendum. They had the majority in parliament when the vote to leave was made. Then, because of stupid decisions and infighting, they have so far failed spectacularly to deliver it.
They failed due to one Boris Johnson and his ERG chums.
No, they failed because MP's of all parties refused to honour a democratic referendum result
Of course they failed, the idea that parliament blocked them is completely false. The Tories did the negotiating, they called an early election, they set the "red lines". It's on them, 100%.
This second early election is just yet another attempt at delivering Brexit, it's exactly what Theresa May tried and failed to do.
If May hadn't called the 2017 election we would now be out under her terms.
Which would have been far preferable to Bozo Boris' shambles of a surrender deal he capitulated with.
They failed because their own MPs refused to vote for the deal May negotiated. If not for this inescapable fact we would be out already. The tories have no one to blame but themselves for brexit failings. Any attempt to pin it on other parties is pure spin and complete rubbish.
Her deal was defeated by the largest majority in living memory, a huge number of her own MPs rejected it.
They realised that the promises of the Faragists were bogus and would damage the country.
I like these factcheckers
Only fools still believe this.
Every version of Brexit has had Brexiteers vote it down.
Which Brexit means Brexit for you? Rest assured that it's your fellow Brexiteers (whose votes you're stealing to claim your "democratic referendum result") who defeated it, and none of you can agree which real Brexit most closely matches the fantasy you all voted for.
No they didn't.
The other parties had no obligation or mandate to back the Tory version of brexit.
The Tories failed to deliver brexit. It is all on them. That is a fact.
Their entire strategy is to blame everyone else for the problems despite being in power for a decade.
Must admit I felt split after the Marr / Boris interview.
Neither came across well, but clearly Boris wasn't going to answer the questions.
Should politicans be allowed to simply ignore the question and spout a pre prepared speech?
I still think they should be given 3 warnings, on the 3rd terminate the interview and allow an opposition member to sit in.
Boris tried what he always does (as do most politicans) keep talking so the host stops, Marr was clearly prepared for this and stopped Boris getting his sound bites across.
Maybe when interviewing politicans they should go back to the physical mic on a stick, so they can in effect cut off the politican but just moving it back.
Yes, because by losing her majority she lost the confidence of her own MPs.
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