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Poll: General Election 2019 voting intention - Nov 15th - 30th

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Rilot, Nov 15, 2019.

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Who will you vote for?

  1. Brexit

    15 vote(s)
    2.9%
  2. Conservative

    148 vote(s)
    28.8%
  3. DUP

    2 vote(s)
    0.4%
  4. Green

    3 vote(s)
    0.6%
  5. Labour

    137 vote(s)
    26.7%
  6. Liberal Democrats

    161 vote(s)
    31.3%
  7. Plaid Cymru

    3 vote(s)
    0.6%
  8. Sinn Fein

    1 vote(s)
    0.2%
  9. SNP

    20 vote(s)
    3.9%
  10. TIG

    1 vote(s)
    0.2%
  11. UKIP

    2 vote(s)
    0.4%
  12. Other party

    5 vote(s)
    1.0%
  13. Independant

    2 vote(s)
    0.4%
  14. Spoil ballot

    14 vote(s)
    2.7%
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  1. NickK

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 13, 2003

    Posts: 18,518

    New voting poll needed I think (2-10th perhaps?)
     
  2. Usher

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 30, 2004

    Posts: 3,218

    You seriously think that the Tories 'failed' to deliver Brexit ??? you clearly didn't notice why they 'failed' then did you
     
  3. Jono8

    Caporegime

    Joined: May 20, 2007

    Posts: 30,526

    Location: Surrey

    They failed, because of infighting and their inability to vote through May's deal when they had a working majority/coalition.

    So yes, they failed.

    May had a working full Tory majority before her disastrous election gambit.

    The failure to deliver Brexit is 100% on the Tories.

    It was a Tory project. They proposed it in their manifesto. They instigated the referendum. They had the majority in parliament when the vote to leave was made. Then, because of stupid decisions and infighting, they have so far failed spectacularly to deliver it.
     
  4. do_ron_ron

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 23, 2002

    Posts: 9,967

    They failed due to one Boris Johnson and his ERG chums.
     
  5. Usher

    Mobster

    Joined: Dec 30, 2004

    Posts: 3,218

    No, they failed because MP's of all parties refused to honour a democratic referendum result
     
  6. Dirk Diggler

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 13,630

    Of course they failed, the idea that parliament blocked them is completely false. The Tories did the negotiating, they called an early election, they set the "red lines". It's on them, 100%.

    This second early election is just yet another attempt at delivering Brexit, it's exactly what Theresa May tried and failed to do.
     
  7. Quartz

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 1, 2014

    Posts: 10,431

    Location: Aberdeen

    If May hadn't called the 2017 election we would now be out under her terms.
     
  8. Freakbro

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jul 29, 2010

    Posts: 16,858

    Location: Lincs

    Which would have been far preferable to Bozo Boris' shambles of a surrender deal he capitulated with.
     
  9. RobHu

    Gangster

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 349

    They failed because their own MPs refused to vote for the deal May negotiated. If not for this inescapable fact we would be out already. The tories have no one to blame but themselves for brexit failings. Any attempt to pin it on other parties is pure spin and complete rubbish.
     
  10. Dirk Diggler

    Capodecina

    Joined: Jan 6, 2013

    Posts: 13,630

    Her deal was defeated by the largest majority in living memory, a huge number of her own MPs rejected it.
     
  11. do_ron_ron

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 23, 2002

    Posts: 9,967

    They realised that the promises of the Faragists were bogus and would damage the country.
     
  12. do_ron_ron

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 23, 2002

    Posts: 9,967

    I like these factcheckers

     
  13. garnett

    Soldato

    Joined: Mar 25, 2008

    Posts: 6,057

    Only fools still believe this.

    Every version of Brexit has had Brexiteers vote it down.

    Which Brexit means Brexit for you? Rest assured that it's your fellow Brexiteers (whose votes you're stealing to claim your "democratic referendum result") who defeated it, and none of you can agree which real Brexit most closely matches the fantasy you all voted for.
     
  14. Jono8

    Caporegime

    Joined: May 20, 2007

    Posts: 30,526

    Location: Surrey

    No they didn't.

    The other parties had no obligation or mandate to back the Tory version of brexit.

    The Tories failed to deliver brexit. It is all on them. That is a fact.
     
  15. chroniclard

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 23, 2014

    Posts: 15,448

    Location: Hertfordshire

    Their entire strategy is to blame everyone else for the problems despite being in power for a decade.
     
  16. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

    Capodecina

    Joined: Aug 4, 2007

    Posts: 10,285

    Location: Wilds of suffolk

    Must admit I felt split after the Marr / Boris interview.
    Neither came across well, but clearly Boris wasn't going to answer the questions.

    Should politicans be allowed to simply ignore the question and spout a pre prepared speech?

    I still think they should be given 3 warnings, on the 3rd terminate the interview and allow an opposition member to sit in.

    Boris tried what he always does (as do most politicans) keep talking so the host stops, Marr was clearly prepared for this and stopped Boris getting his sound bites across.

    Maybe when interviewing politicans they should go back to the physical mic on a stick, so they can in effect cut off the politican but just moving it back.
     
  17. Quartz

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 1, 2014

    Posts: 10,431

    Location: Aberdeen

    Yes, because by losing her majority she lost the confidence of her own MPs.
     
  18. Rilot

    Don

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 20,049

    Location: Wargrave, UK

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