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Poll: General Election 2019 voting intention - Nov 1st - 14th

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Rilot, Nov 5, 2019.

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Who will you vote for?

  1. Labour

    95 vote(s)
    22.6%
  2. Conservative

    104 vote(s)
    24.8%
  3. Liberal Democrat

    162 vote(s)
    38.6%
  4. SNP

    19 vote(s)
    4.5%
  5. Green

    7 vote(s)
    1.7%
  6. Brexit

    15 vote(s)
    3.6%
  7. UKIP

    1 vote(s)
    0.2%
  8. TIG

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Plaid Cymru

    2 vote(s)
    0.5%
  10. DUP

    1 vote(s)
    0.2%
  11. Sinn Fein

    2 vote(s)
    0.5%
  12. Independant

    3 vote(s)
    0.7%
  13. Other party

    1 vote(s)
    0.2%
  14. Spoil ballot

    8 vote(s)
    1.9%
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  1. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    That political compass thing is a bit of a joke tbh... so the Conservatives are only slightly below Stalin and Hitler in terms of authoritarianism.... Hmmm - even if you're very anti Boris/Brexit you must be able to see how ridiculous that is.
     
  2. Quartz

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Apr 1, 2014

    Posts: 8,879

    Location: Aberdeen

    Wow. THat bespeaks very poor management.
     
  3. PlacidCasual

    Soldato

    Joined: May 13, 2003

    Posts: 6,069

    Burn the Witch. ;)
     
  4. neviditelny

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 15, 2015

    Posts: 1,018

    And there is wards and Trusts that are in a way worse position than my ward is...
     
  5. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    Brexit Party announcement apparently coming at mid day, they've already scrapped their rally.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...t-to-cave-in-Brexit-Party-leader-scraps-rally

     
  6. Irish_Tom

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 12,280

    I said in the ‘defining the left’ thread that one of my biggest bugbears with the political compass is a lack of scale.
     
  7. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    Well it just goes to + and - 10 on each axis. But that is it, 10 is the limit - it isn't some relative thing where if you then whacked the Nazis on the above one you'd have to extend the axes - the Nazis/Hitler fit 1 point above the Tories at the same level as UKIP/BXP and not as far to the right....

    A few years back all three major UK parties were basically in the right wing/authoritarian section.

    The questions about religion are just dumb, some of the questions can't necessarily be answered depending on your political view and there are suspicions that the reason for it's creation was being miffed at Tony Blair and wanting to paint "New Labour" as essentially Red Tories etc..

    Seem people on here seem to take it at face value - thus you get posts along the lines of "herp derp the Lib Dems are a right wing party".
     
  8. Evangelion

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 23,022

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

  9. robgmun

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 30, 2006

    Posts: 15,255

    Location: London

    Ofph...Who thought of letting Emily Thornberry out into the wild today?? She getting absolutely brutalised everywhere she goes!!

    I thought Nick Robinson on Radio 4 was particularly damning!
     
  10. Evangelion

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 29, 2007

    Posts: 23,022

    Location: Adelaide, South Australia

    The modifier of the Y axis pushes the Tories out to a very comfortable distance from Hitler, because their authoritarianism is of the neoliberal type rather than the fascist. So the graph isn't as damning as it first appears.

    That said, it's notable that the current Tories are a lot more authoritarian than Thatcher's.

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  11. robgmun

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 30, 2006

    Posts: 15,255

    Location: London

    Nice to see Labour suitably punished for thair antics in parliament in the last few months. Hopefully, this means they'll hit the reset button after the election and change the entire front bench
     
  12. StriderX

    Capodecina

    Joined: Mar 18, 2008

    Posts: 21,755

    Political compasses are only relevant to our Overton window, that should be inherently obvious.

    I’ll be here all day if I start describing why the Tories are more authoritarian than the Lib Dem’s, but one example is it’s dogmatic (and not objective) view on drugs.

    Plus it can’t account for policies that no one actually expects them to go through with, because you can’t do an objective analysis if you start bringing in realpolitik.
     
  13. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    to be fair to her she was asked to defend Comrade Corbyn... when has he ever supported the British military... even Kosovo - nope...

    Still he'll happily share a platform with IRA terrorists, lay a wreath in a grave yard for the terrorists behind the Munich Massacre killings (yet another reason why jews don't trust him) etc.. https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-jeremy-corbyn-and-the-wreath-row
     
  14. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    Sorry - what are you referring to? There doesn't seem to be much of a comfortable distance at all.
     
  15. Uther

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Jun 16, 2005

    Posts: 9,805

    Baroness Warsi today: Islamophobia in Conservatives 'institutionalised'

    So choose your poison, you can be anti semite or anti muslim depending on your party...
     
  16. robgmun

    Capodecina

    Joined: Apr 30, 2006

    Posts: 15,255

    Location: London



    LIVE, lets see what he does
     
  17. robfosters

    Caporegime

    Joined: Dec 1, 2010

    Posts: 31,166

    Location: Welling, London

    Sounds like he’s pulling a lot of them out.
     
  18. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    Not really comparable - has Boris been hanging out with anti muslim terrorists/far right groups and calling them friends etc..?
     
  19. Uther

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Jun 16, 2005

    Posts: 9,805

    Is he backing Johnsons surrender deal now then?
     
  20. dowie

    Caporegime

    Joined: Jan 29, 2008

    Posts: 42,950

    "Super Canada plus" FFS - the names for these things... :D

    LOL - funny how before he got it you lot were adamant he wasn't negotiating a deal and was just running down the clock for no deal...
     
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