German court rules circumcision is 'bodily harm'

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:28

Has anyone here had an adult circumcision?

How painful lect was it afterwards, and as an adult obviously there is the fact that you get erections can they bust the stitches (if there are any)/cause pain for a time afterwards?

Cleeecooo · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:28

Tefal said:
just like cannabis is not allowed cleco.

doesn't mean it does not happen.

True, but again, this can go back to the Muslim analogy. Suicide bombing isn't allowed, it does happen, but Sayin it's common is wrong.

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:29

Cleeecooo said:
Not common:

The practice, known as metzitzah b’peh, is no longer prevalent in most Jewish circumcisions, but is still performed in ultra-Orthodox communities.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobil...-babies-waivers-metzitzah-bpeh_n_1594152.html

Only done by the ultra urthodox

which account for how many people?

^TANK^ · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:29

Tefal said:
in the past it had a medical reason tank, it's not meant to be sexual.

Now days though there is medical equipment that should be used as it is cleaner and much much safer for the child.

I know its not meant to be sexual! But seeing a mans mouth around a babies penis is disturbing to me strangely enough, is it not warped to you?

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:30

Cleeecooo said:
True, but again, this can go back to the Muslim analogy. Suicide bombing isn't allowed, it does happen, but Sayin it's common is wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism

Well given that these "ultra orthodox" represent a group of well over 1.3 million with a rapidly growing population that's pretty common .

Cleeecooo · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:31

Tefal said:
which account for how many people?

No idea, but certainly nowhere near a majority.

Cleeecooo · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:31

Tefal said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism

Well given that these "ultra orthodox" represent a group of well over 1.3 million with a rapidly growing population that's pretty common .

It's not necessarily true all the orthodox do it.

I am also only referring to what goes on in Britain.

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:32

^TANK^ said:
I know its not meant to be sexual! But seeing a mans mouth around a babies penis is disturbing to me strangely enough, is it not warped to you?

it's odd sure but as long as it's not being done for sexual reasons it's not quite shocking.

i find the cutting the piece of the child more shocking than kissing it better afterwards as it were

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:33

Cleeecooo said:
I am also only referring to what goes on in Britain.

why didn't you say that before? :confused:

It's a common practice in some places just not here.

Amnesia · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:33

asim18 said:
I didn't understand any of that .

just as im failing to understand how you're comparing a person who chooses not to get anymore education to someone else choosing wether someone should be circumcised.

^TANK^ · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:34

Tefal said:
it's odd sure but as long as it's not being done for sexual reasons it's not quite shocking.

i find the cutting the piece of the child more shocking than kissing it better afterwards as it were

Mutilation and lolly pops all in the name of religion. I'm so glad I'm not bringing children into this ****ed up world.

asim18 · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:34

Amnesia said:
just as im failing to understand how you're comparing a person who chooses not to get anymore education to someone else choosing wether someone should be circumcised.

Yes, you most definitely are failing to understand, as that's not what I'm comparing.

My comparison was:

A **** parenting without circumcision Vs. a great parenting with circumcision.

And it was in relation to the question "Which would be more harmful/have more lasting effect?"

A **** parenting would have a more devastating effect on that individual's life.

Nothing to do with a 16 year old not choosing to partake in FE.

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:35

Amnesia said:
just as im failing to understand how you're comparing a person who chooses not to get anymore education to someone else choosing wether someone should be circumcised.

Well it's not always a choice is it?

Many people simply cannot afford to continue their education (or are simply not "cut out for it") and have to get a job.

But yes it is a bizarre comparison to be making.

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:36

^TANK^ said:
Mutilation and lolly pops all in the name of religion. I'm so glad I'm not bringing children into this ****ed up world.

you had a snip?

How was it?

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:36

asim18 said:
Yes, you most definitely are failing to understand, as that's not what I'm comparing.

ah in that case what are you saying as it's a bit confusing?

^TANK^ · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:38

Tefal said:
you had a snip?

Have a guess?

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:40

^TANK^ said:
Have a guess?

Sorry i meant vasectomy not circumcision.

Also understand if you don't want to discus it as just curious

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:41

Moses said:
I don't see how any of that legitimises parents having their kids circumcised, though.

indeed it very much seems to be a case of saying "well you can't solve X problem so why even bother trying to solve Y".

I'm sure Dolph will be a long shortly with the correct Latin expression for this.

^TANK^ · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:41

Tefal said:
Sorry i meant vasectomy not circumcision.

Also understand if you don't want to discus it as just curious

No I haven't had a vasectomy. :eek:

Tefal · 2 Jul 2012 at 01:42

^TANK^ said:
No I haven't had a vasectomy.

Ah thought you might have from your "I'm not bringing children into this world" post.

Oh btw tank are you still going out with the same girl as you used to be?