1st year back he was well beaten, last year it was pretty equal, this year MS is driving better than Nico, even if the points do not reflect it. So saying he is being beat year after year is really not playing fair.
German Grand Prix 2012, Hockenheim - Race 10/20
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1st year back he was well beaten, last year it was pretty equal, this year MS is driving better than Nico, even if the points do not reflect it. So saying he is being beat year after year is really not playing fair.
In my opinion Vettel should get just a couple of seconds pentalty to drop him back behind button, passing off the track is just not on.
They were saying that they want the stewards decisions to be more consistant, how about starting here!
Alonso is a relentless driver, he deserves the WDC. I didn't like him at Mclaren were he totally destabalised the team when he tried to get preferential treatment in the team over a rooky Hamilton. He's much better in Ferrari where he's obviously a number 1 driver with a whipping boy team mate.
They were saying that they want the stewards decisions to be more consistant, how about starting here!
Alonso is a relentless driver, he deserves the WDC. I didn't like him at Mclaren were he totally destabalised the team when he tried to get preferential treatment in the team over a rooky Hamilton. He's much better in Ferrari where he's obviously a number 1 driver with a whipping boy team mate.
No he did it with track position, controlling the race pace and his tyre wear while others getting higher degradation in his wake. Had button been on pole or alongside him at the start I doubt very much alonso could have won the race.
It was another masterfull drive.
it takes more than just records to be a "great" name - especially given the cough cough wink wink of the Bennetton car in 94/95
edit - but your phrasing was definitely lol worthy
Pace is that which the driver is capable of driving given ALL the circumstances during the race - including who ever is infront of you
His dry race pace was better than anyone's today
Im not saying he didnt control it, he did that - but that is also part of his race pace, it surely HAS to be part of it.
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On that basis there's little risk in performing an illegal overtake. There should be an additional penalty as a deterrent.
What was up with the Benetton in 95? 94 can be discussed till the cows come home but 95?
Don't forget your boy Jenson drove a car that was banned for 2 races for being cheats
And won his title in a car challenged in the courts
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In a nutshell - illegal electronic aids. Code was still in the ECU, but not used. Scouts Honour.
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What was up with the Benetton in 95? 94 can be discussed till the cows come home but 95?
Don't forget your boy Jenson drove a car that was banned for 2 races for being cheats
I was going to say I can understand 94 but don't remember anything wrong with the 95 car. Mind you I was 7 at the time
94 yes codes found in Benetton, McLaren and Ferrari, nothing in 95 tho.
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Who said Jenson will be reconsidered for his future? 
Feeling stupid?
Feeling stupid?
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What was up with the Benetton in 95? 94 can be discussed till the cows come home but 95?
Don't forget your boy Jenson drove a car that was banned for 2 races for being cheats
Could have sworn there was some questionable going's on in 95 as well, but there was so much in 94, its dubious that '95 was a totally fresh car
The Brawn was completely cleared at the time, different to the benetton which should have been banned as the rules were written at the time (which is a huge difference)
As for the honda - and JB missed some races because of it (even if he was aware of what was going on)
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Schumi was in the best car at the time with the best tyres in the Ferrari years. That dominance almost destroyed the sport to the point were the sporting bodies won't allow that to happen again, i.e. they wouldn't let Vettels blown deffuser winning years go on. Ferrari and maybe even just Schumi were the only ones able to pay enough to get these top spec tyres - tyres that were so expensive and tricky to make they couldn't supply any other team.
Ok i may have missed a few facts but a technical pundit explained all this which i didn't find shocking.
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It sounded suspiciously like it was running traction control at times. Nothing was ever proved however. Aside from the change of engine supplier the B195 was clearly an evolution of the B194.
Anyway, this is the wrong thread for this.
Put simply he won the race on saturday by getting pole. Do you think had he qualified 6th and JB pole that he would have shown the fastest dry pace?
It was sitting behind Alonso too closely for lap after lap that would have hurt his tyres. Vettel dropped right back and when JB's tyres started to go he came back at him.
Clean air is so valuable with these tyres.
Anyway it's nice to see Mclaren come back a bit.
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The 95 benetton was illegal fuel rigs wasn't it?
Of course Vettel had nowhere to go, doesn't mean he should be able to gain an advantage by running off the track though. Doubt he'll be penalised that said.