Gigabyte P67A-UD7 in the house

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Gigabyte P67A-UD7 = performance

Thanks to the weather issues over here in the UK over December and the disruptions to couriers and postal service that the snow caused my Christmas present only arrived two days after Christmas. But oh was it worth the wait. Ladies (there must be some :D) and gentlemen may I present the Gigabyte P67A-UD7 motherboard. I just want to share with you all my new board. This baby is going to go into a new Corsair 600T case that is just waiting for the PSU to arrive so I can do the build.

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Here is my Gigabyte P67A-UD7

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Gigabyte are no strangers to any of us who belong to this forum so lets get on with opening up the box.

There is nothing better than opening new toys. And for sure this motherboard is something totally different from Gigabyte. Gone is the blue of old and in comes the stylish black and gold. I really like the new colour scheme that Gigabyte have gone for with the UD7.

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But a motherboard is not just about how it looks. Sure a good looking board is a plus but what the board brings to the table performance and feature wise is far more important to me.
So without further ado let’s get into the technical side of things.
The P67 is a new socket and supports 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ processors in the LGA1155 package as most of you know. What that means is your 1136 CPU will not fit in this motherboard. And just to make sure you get the message a bright yellow warning card spells it out. Very explicit pictures just to make sure we get the message.

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Now I do not think I need to say too much about the CPU as there has been quite a bit written about the new SandbyBridge CPU’s and the best read I can recommend is the one over at Anandtech.


Just to put things into some kind of perspective with regards to the new CPU’s. These new CPU’s are not redefining performance CPU’s but they are a very real improvement at a outstanding price point. By that I mean you are basically getting as close as can be to a 980X hex core CPU performance at a third of the price when buying the top of the range K processor.

The full feature list is truly impressive.

These two slide's have the most important points. I have highlighted those that I find most valuable.


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10 USB ports of which 6 are USB3

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8 Sata ports in total

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The first 4 are SATA3GB/s next to the 2 white ports which are native SATA6GB/s and a further 2 additional Marvell SATA6GB/s on their right.

Memory remains dual channel just like the chipset the P67 is replacing.

4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets supporting up to 16 GB of system memory
Dual channel memory architecture
Support for DDR3 2133/1866/1600/1333/1066 MHz memory modules
Support for non-ECC memory modules
Support for Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) memory modules


The most interesting thing for me is the native support of 2133MHz memory modules. For me that is a very welcome addition to the chipset. I have noticed that one of the most common question posted in the memory forum here at OCUK has most certainly been the plaintive ‘I bought this 1600/2000 MHz ram and it will not work on my motherboard.’ With improved native support now provided for high-speed ram I expect those kinds of questions are to be things of the past. Well we can hope can't we?


Not sure if you want to go AMD or nVidia for your graphics card?

Well the Gigabyte P57A-UD7 is perfect for the serious gamer or someone like me who is an avid bencher. It has the option to have both Crossfire and Sli and is a big plus thanks to the inclusion of a NF200 chip.

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Dual Ethernet is provided as you would expect from a top of the range board.

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I am not going to bore you all to death by going down the list of features that can be read at the product page. Rather I want to move on to focus on a couple of really cool innovations that Gigabyte have included.

The first is the most noticeable and obvious. The heat-sinks are very distinctive and add to the aesthetics of the board.




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But as I stated in the beginning looks are just not enough do the bits and pieces do the work they are required to do and do they perform those tasks well. In short yes they do. Steven aka sin0822 did a really nice in-depth look at the performance of the heat-sinks and his conclusion was a whole hearted thumbs up. LINK




The second thing is not so noticeable and most people will not even notice the work that is being done. And that is how it should be. I am talking about the power delivery system on the motherboard to the different components that make up the whole system.


The voltage regulation needed for overclocking is the single most important factor when pushing your system to the max. And that is the reason so many overclocker will modify their graphic cards and other equipment to create as clean a power source to the components. Gigabyte have done this for us.


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Quoting from Steven again


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With Sandy Bridge comes new Voltage Regulator spec, Voltage Regulator Down 12(VRD 12) is Intel’s new spec for power delivery design. One major aspect is the addition of SVID.
What is Serial VID?:
With VRD12 comes SVID (Serial Voltage Identification), in the past Intel introduced DVID (Dynamic Voltage Identification), as well as plain old VID (voltage Identification, stock chip voltage). Let me explain these a little bit to you. DVID is dynamic voltage regulation protocol for the processor, when you change frequency of the chip voltage needs to be changed as well, DVID works by setting predetermined voltages depending on the situation, such as in C1E power saving state. DVID is a way to assign voltage values to frequencies and a way for the processor to know what voltage to operate at. In the BIOS you also have the ability to set DVID +/- voltage increments and under load it will bump the voltage up to what you set plus stock VID, so DVID of .250v + VID of 1.2V when your processor is under load Vcore will be 1.45v.
With SVID you add a little kick to the situation; Serial VID is a simple but powerful way to link the processor’s power regulator(PWM) to the motherboard’s power regulator. SVID is a super high speed interface that features VID tables, fault response, and power states. SVID allows the PWM (ISL6366) to “talk” directly to the processor to find the best voltage for different frequencies. What you get is an ultra-smart system that can be fed suggestions, and then it will take the suggestions and make it happen in real time. For instance, multiplier overclocking on unlocked chips is a common occurrence and turbo boost is as well, what if you want to set a multiplier that the system isn’t ready for because the frequency is too high? You proceed to mess around with the right voltage trying to find what is best, and after hours of tinkering and overvolting you end up with a stable system or a fried chip. SVID is a way that you can give the processor info on what you want to do and it will determine the best way to proceed with voltage. It will take a matter of seconds to find the proper voltage for your overclock.

I would strongly recommend the serious technical aficionado among us to go read his article in full.

I had wanted to post some stuff about how the board performs, basically I ran a couple of benchmarks and wanted to share some of those details and enthuse about outstanding performance :D but I will have to wait until the Intel 2nd Generation Core CPU's are retail before I am allowed to post.

The reason is that initial testing was done with ES (engineering samples) processors but I have been asked not to post that data by the friend who lent me the ES CPU due to possible differences in the ES sample and full retail versions performance data. And I fully agree. I personally find that it is better to have information about new products with full retail components which are not cheery picked but rather exactly like those anybody can purchase in any store.

In closing. I want to say one thing, this is not a review. This is my personal take on the board as a end user. For want of a better term I call it an unpacking. After all it was meant to be a Christmas present.

So to close this part of the unpacking of my new board I just want to say that having spent six very pleasant days with the motherboard I can tell you that the motherboard has performed flawlessly and has a rather remarkable mature BIOS for a new chip-set. The results I have obtained while testing I will of course have to confirm and retest with the retail CPU that I have bought from OCUK, just as many of you have, and it should be here with me tomorrow as I was just to late for my order to be shipped yesterday. But barring any strange hiccups I suspect the results will be very similar. And the combination of this top of the range motherboard and the 2600-K outstanding.

Since I am not allowed to share my own results here are some from a friend who has a retail CPU and this board too.

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I am so impressed with both the CPU and the motherboard. Especially the motherboard, overclocking was a dream. The build quality is better than anything I have had and it is obvious that a lot of thought and money went into component selection. This is a board that will replace my current rig as both my 24/7 system and more importantly as my benching rig. I shall not mention the vendor whose product I was using before but you can safely assume that it will be Gigabyte with this chipset, and this board.

If you want the latest BIOS you can go to the download section of the offical Gigabyte web sight or you can have a look here.

Here is one last result from a good mate from Romania. Monstru

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CPU-Z 1.56.2 Beta for SandyBridge CPU's

Thanks for having a look and happy computing.
 
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Not everyone is into benching like I am, but we all use benchmarks of some kind to make choices. The most obvious is price. Yeah that is right, price you see when you compare something against another you are doing a simple form of benchmarking. Basically anything can be the measurement or unit that is being compared too, or benchmarked. For motherboards and stuff like that it is often features and performance with price being the final benchmark. :D
Not everyone values synthetic benchmarks. Most people agree that they have limited value. Today i decided to do a few benchmarks. Things that we all can relate to and maybe use when making a informed decision about hardware.

Just to set the scene. There have been no special tweaks applied. The operating systems are retail. The applications where downloaded from the net just as anyone can. No performance gear tweaks to ram or anything. CPU overclocking was done in the BIOS – really it is the best place for any overclocking. And the only settings that were used in the BIOS were the XMP profile at times.

All voltages are at AUTO.
DDR3 frequency at XPM profile frequency but voltages set at auto.
Graphic Card at stock
Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler single Scythe fan

Enough of that here are the benchmarks

WINRar Bench.
We all use some form of package compression or achieve unpacking tool. WinRar has a built in benchmark.
4876


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3DMarkVantage no PhysiX full run.

24922


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Stability testing at 4.5GHz please note the temperatures


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Some of us still like the old favourites and here is one of mine
3Dmark06
23229 all at stock.

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Booting into 5GHz required 1.440 volts to the core
Everything else is set to auto



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As you can see I just did not make the magical 5GHz mark because of my CPU the bus speed is set at 99.8 on the CPU so I touched the BLCK up a tad to 1020 and here we have a proper 5GHz again at 1.140 volts on the vcore.
A big plus is the smooth current delivery of the UD7 motherboard I had no problems at all during all my testing. Mates of mine where not so lucky and had some issues with voltage delivery.

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The first time I booted into Windows was at 4.6GHz.
I then decided to see what was the max CPU speed I could install Windows7 Ultimate.
The answer is 5091MHz or if you prefer the X51 multi. :D

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Just for a bit of balance I included a AMD graphic card and some Vantage

See how much more clocking I need on the GPU to get close to the 580GTX

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Vantage @ x50 Multi PhysiX enabled.
78440 CPU score the CPU is incredible in this benchmark

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Over all I am very very impressed with this motherboard. It made overclocking my new CPU a pleasure. The bios options are many and far more tweakable than I was expecting with a new CHIPset. If you are not sure about clocking your Gigabyte board I see that the lads over at the offical Giga support forum have posted a overclockign Guide.

Gigabyte Overclocking Guide


Personally when I overclock I have one golden rule.


LET TEMPERATURE BE YOUR GUIDE

Seriously voltage does not kill, the product of voltage which is heat does kill. So if you manage your CPU temperature in a sensible way then you do have leeway with voltages. My temps at 5GHz did not sky rocket.

Here is a final benchmark one that I realy can appreciate. It is not mine but my partners. Sub 7 mins for SUPER PI 32 million :D :D

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I take it you will get 16x which ever pcie lanes you use, so if you want to get a bit of air aroung the graphics cards you could use the outside ones ?

Spot on, the thing about this particular board is that all the PCi-e lanes feed into the NF200 chip, on most other boards X58 and P55 only a proportional amount of the PCi-e total is fed into the chip. Reasons are simple, other devices use the PCi-e bandwidth. Not this board. It has a secondary PCi-e path for those devices, such as SATA6GB/s or USB3. Really good design move.

And good idea about the air movement especially with some of these toasters we call graphic cards. :)

Also 6GB sata would use for solid state drives or would a pair of velociraptors benefit at all by using these ?

Well RAID is a one click process now. No more the multi step array building. Did not think to mention too much about that but I will add some of the benchmarks I did with my C300 SSD drives in the next instalment of my new toy unpacking. I have tested two C300 128GB SSD drives in RAID 0 - the crucials are the only SSD currently that I have which are SATA3 (as they call it) drives. Amazing speed. :eek:

As to velociraptors I really can not confirm one way or the other as I only have two normal raptors to test with. I would say that the native SATA6GB /s ports when configured in RAID 0 with those hard drives would show huge gains yes. But as I said I have not tested this my self. So can not confirm as yet.
 
Sweet looking board. Does it use the UEFI bios

Short answer is no.

Correct answer is not yet.

Let me explain why I say that. You see each BIOS is a 32Mbit Flash Award bios, not the old 16Mbit of before, this means there is future support for EFI. It is as easy as flashing the BIOS. I suspect in the future it is likely yes.
 
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Yes you simply determine which speed you want your ram to run.

So when I clicked on the option memory frequency I was given a number of choices.

1600
1866
2133

My Geil Ram are rated 6-9-6 @2000MHz and I selected the 1866 option.

Hope that helps
 
andyr to increase or decrease your ram speed you simply adjust the BCLK/DMI setting. To increase your ram from 2133 to 2200 you would adjust the base setting 1000 upwards in small increaments till the frequancy showed the desired amount.

In your case I think it would be a setting of 1040. But my 2000MHz ram show as 1998 for example so not sure what your particular sticks will read.

Hope that makes sense.
 
One other thing - I sort of assumed that you would work this bit out. As you raise your ram speed so you are increasing the CPU frequency too. So it can be a trade off on CPU multi v ram frequency.

So if you increase your BCLK to 1030 that = 103 BLK so of course just like both the P55 and X58 you multiply that number with the CPU multi to get your target CPU frequency.

So it might be better to start higher and work down. But I have not tried that yet.
 
Some benchmarks added.

Andy I am using very cheap ram in some of my testing I paid £72 for these sticks from OCUK a few months ago and they are clocking to 2133 on default no problems. Unless you are a bencher I see no point in expensive ram to be blunt.

Here is a very good performance comparison by Steven on XS forum.

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Yes indeed the are 4GB in total.

But I do have 2 x 4 GB but have not even fired them up yet. hmm that is a thought.

Thanks Andy I think the next thing I am going to do is see how this board works with different ram I have about 8 sets of ram from a spectrum of vendors. Both 2GB modules and 4GB.
 
Why are they bundling the old light blue coloured SATA cables with this new board :S
New colour scheme for the board but old coloured cables hardly fills you with confidence on a new product.



Performace fills me with confidence with a product not the colour of the SATA cables. :D


I would not have minded a nice set of black cable and gold connectors to be honest. :)
 
You are talking to a bencher here remember Andy. Do you mean 24/7?

My UD7 and SB CPU are only switched on when I am testing or benching as is/are all my kit. My 24/7 systems are very boring.

But to answer your question - if you are going for 5GHz 24/7 then you will need 1.440 Vcore. That will be rock solid. Good water cooling - not some rubbish kit made from a baked beans tin can and a stolen fish tank pump. Actually you can use a good air set up too and your temps will be fine.

Once you get past that 50 multi and into the power hungry zone then temps sky rocket I must say. I have been lucky with mine. But other folks (again other boards) have had nightmare stories of upper 90's - I really think that the power delivery of the UD7 is responsible for the stable overclock. From a electronics point it makes sense. Clean, stable current supply is critical to the health and well being of any system.
 
Install Easytune6 then simply use the OS based options to over-clock your system. That way all will be done automatically for you.

If you want to spend more time once you have your stable 4.6 GHz then you can work at lowering the voltages one notch at a time.

As simple as that with this motherboard.

Please bare in mind that not all CPUs are equal. For example my CPU is not a particularly good one at all.
 
Andy - the two white ones are what you use. RAID is one click now.


meansizzler - what you do in easytunes in OS once will be BIOS from then on. But as you wish.

Select ram XMP profile 1
Set Multi to 48 or 46
Leave all voltages auto.

F10 ---> yes
Done deal
 
Can not speak for all OS based overclocking software, but the Easytunes will save your settings in BIOS. As to stability - one man's stable is another's un-stable. I suggest you simply use the most taxing application you work with or game with for a few hours. I am not a fan of these so-called stability tests. Seen systems pass stress tests and the BSOD first time you play a game.

Real world stable is what matters. And what is real world is different to each person.
 
I assume you are using the UD7 motherboard or this was a rather silly place to ask your question. :)

Could you provide information as to the make and model of the ram.

Here are a list of things to check.

  • Your power supply and all the connectors to the motherboard are firmly connected and in the right places.
  • The connectors on your ram are clean and free from any residue.
  • Try one stick of ram in one slot, repeat with one stick in each of the four slots.
  • Clear CMOS
  • Remove all connectors from PSU, remove harddrive, keyboard, mouse graphic card, everything including the CMOS batery and clear CMOS againl Let stand for 30 mins and try again.
  • Check your graphic card is in the correct slot and corrrectly mounted, with PCi-e connector firmly fitted
  • Change your usb keyboard to a PS/2 keyboard

Try those things for now and I will check back later to see how it is going.;)

We will sort it out.
 
It is quite normal for the locking mechanism to be tight - or require force to close. It often surprises people the first time they do it. If you have put the CPU in the wrong way you can not close the locking mechanism and if you did force it your pins will be toast. :D And you will have noticed I am sure.

As to booting with no ram. Your system will power up and the fans will spin then close again. The two lights green and yellow will show.

Currently it sounds like your 12v power connector is not providing power. I have tested what my motherboard does if I remove it and the behaviours match with what you are reporting. Might want to check the actual metal pins inside have wires connected to them. Have had a 12v connector work loose a few wires in the past.
 
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