Gonna tell my boss to make me redundant.

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Ok well my boss hasn't been paying me on time and in full since February.

and for a long time he has been paying me in bits (literally £10s and £20s) and I'm not putting up with it any more, the guy is in severe debt, owes people from last year over £70,000 and I still haven't been paid in full for last months work.

I been to cab and they said to try get him to give me a redundancy notice, my p45, a letter indicating how much left they owe me and my payslips.

So I've written the redundancy letter - could you guys tell me if it is ok or not?

TO: CODEC
ADDRESS
POSTCODE
TEL

FROM: BOSS
ADDRESS
POSTCODE
MOBILE TEL
OFFICE TEL

DATE: Tuesday 24th November 2009

To whom it may concern,

It is with regret that we must terminate the contract and end employment between COMPANY and CODEC effective immediately.

The contract in question is to which COMPANY employs CODEC as the Web Developer and consisted of creating new elements and updating the site overall. This was paid at £££££ (pounds) with 24 days holiday per annum. This contract was created in September 2008

Due to financial strain, COMPANY can no longer support CODECs contractual needs and as a result:

CODEC has received little to no payment on the agreed date
CODEC has not received full payment on time consecutively since February 2009

Due to this breech, COMPANY accepts that it would not be in CODECs interests to continue employment with us and to seek financial stability else where.

CODECs performance at all times was above satisfactory and exceeded expectations and standards

If we are given the opportunity to work with CODEC in future we will make every effort to seek CODEC out for future employment opportunities in a similar role.

If more information is required regarding this matter, please contact BOSS at the top of this notice.

Yours Faithfully

Signed:



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BOSS NAME
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Any good?
 
Basher said:
I'm confused. Why don't you just leave and sue him?
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because if you quit your job claiming benefits isn't so easy. and I need some sort of income while I'm looking for a job. TBH I don't think this guy has any intention on paying me for last month. At least he's agreed to sign this thing but please can we stay on topic?
 
Repta said:
Im guessing because if he leaves he wont be entitled to any benifits while he looks for another job, if hes made redundant then he will
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hole in one mr woods.

also the fact that if the business does eventually get sponsorship/major investment I would like the oppertunity to carry on here as it is a nice role.
 
codec said:
because if you quit your job claiming benefits isn't so easy. and I need some sort of income while I'm looking for a job. TBH I don't think this guy has any intention on paying me for last month. At least he's agreed to sign this thing but please can we stay on topic?
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Right, odd. Anyway, letter sounds a bit un-professional. You need to be more specific around the issues. Would you really return to the company if they asked you? If so why limit yourself to a similar role?
 
Basher said:
Right, odd. Anyway, letter sounds a bit un-professional. You need to be more specific around the issues. Would you really return to the company if they asked you? If so why limit yourself to a similar role?
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Well could you point out where? If the circumstances were right, financial stability, a good contract etc yeah sure. But the company has run out so I must act accordingly.

also I put in that information so I can use this as proof to future employers that I'm not lying about my exit with the company.
 
codec said:
Well could you point out where? If the circumstances were right, financial stability, a good contract etc yeah sure. But the company has run out so I must act accordingly.
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Ok:

- Give more details on how much you should have been paid/when vs what you got.
- Specify that you would want the business to be more financially stable if you were to return.
- Is 'creating new elements and updating the site generally' how your role was described in the job spec?
- Does your original contract have a date/reference number?
- Which clauses in the contract have been breached?
- What will your actions be if your boss refuses?

This is worded oddly. A redundancy letter should read 'The business can no longer justify the existence of your position' not 'we don't really think it's in your best interests to be here'.
 
Basher said:
Ok:

- Give more details on how much you should have been paid/when vs what you got.
- Specify that you would want the business to be more financially stable if you were to return.
- Is 'creating new elements and updating the site generally' how your role was described in the job spec?
- Does your original contract have a date/reference number?
- Which clauses in the contract have been breached?
- What will your actions be if your boss refuses?

This is worded oddly. A redundancy letter should read 'The business can no longer justify the existence of your position' not 'we don't really think it's in your best interests to be here'.
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Ok cool thanks, I'm writting it from the view of the business so to say what it would take to make me want to return maybe isn't so relevant but I'll reword it for sure :)

the role itself is "web developer" and yeah - the job description said "Regular maintenance and improvement of site functionality."
There's no reference number but there is a date.

the clause breeched is that I would be paid on the first of every month in full.

my boss isn't refusing, he fully acknowledges my position in this matter.

thanks for the tips!
 
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If a company is making you redundant it's not likely to be on the grounds that they aren't paying you properly.

It's far more likely to be along the lines of:-

Due to the current financial climate and downturn in trading conditions it is unfortunately required to reduce staffing numbers.

Blah Blah

PS. I do know he's agreeing with you but in a real situation where people are being made redundant the company will not own up to any shortfallings on it's part. Your letter would look slightly suspect if it was handed in, I would certainly query it's legitimacy.
 
If you are already dealing with the CAB, aren't they the best placed people to advise you on the content of the letter?
 
codec said:
TO: CODEC
ADDRESS
POSTCODE
TEL

FROM: BOSS
ADDRESS
POSTCODE
MOBILE TEL
OFFICE TEL

DATE: Tuesday 24th November 2009

To whom it may concern,

It is with regret that we must terminate the contract and end employment between COMPANY and CODEC effective immediately.

The contract in question is to which COMPANY employs CODEC as the Web Developer and consisted of creating new elements and updating the site overall. This was paid at £££££ (pounds) with 24 days holiday per annum. This contract was created in September 2008


Due to financial strain, COMPANY can no longer support CODECs contractual needs and as a result:

CODEC has received little to no payment on the agreed date
CODEC has not received full payment on time consecutively since February 2009

Due to this breech, COMPANY accepts that it would not be in CODECs interests to continue employment with us and to seek financial stability else where.

CODECs performance at all times was above satisfactory and exceeded expectations and standards

If we are given the opportunity to work with CODEC in future we will make every effort to seek CODEC out for future employment opportunities in a similar role.

If more information is required regarding this matter, please contact BOSS at the top of this notice.

Yours Faithfully

Signed:



_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

BOSS NAME
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Things in red read more appropriately to a reference than a notice of redundancy.

Things in yellow no normal company would EVER put in a notice of redundancy. It looks very suspect.
 
Windle said:
If a company is making you redundant it's not likely to be on the grounds that they aren't paying you properly.

It's far more likely to be along the lines of:-

Due to the current financial climate and downturn in trading conditions it is unfortunately required to reduce staffing numbers.

Blah Blah

PS. I do know he's agreeing with you but in a real situation where people are being made redundant the company will not own up to any shortfallings on it's part. Your letter would look slightly suspect if it was handed in, I would certainly query it's legitimacy.
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I'll change the bit about late payments to reference the financial climate :) thanks for that one
 
This sound like a case of constructive dismissal. You are being forced to resign from your employment because in current situation your employer puts you in adverse financial situation without any means to support yourself despite you performing your duties in full. Get CAB to draft constructive dismissal letter with you, prepare list of demands (monies owed plus holiday entitlement plus interest, you are entitled legally to interest on sums owed etc) and then you have good grounds for benefits and for taking legal action against your employer if necessary.
 
If he is paying you in £10's and £20's why do you assume he has the money to make you redundant? surely if your on good terms with him you can work something out?, he obviously wants to keep you or he would not be paying you.
 
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