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i mean cheaper than a 295. you read the trouble they're having with their yields and i didn't think Nvidia were doing DX11?
Why is he trolling? He has got a point.
Many of the expert reviews say basically the same thing - this card is a slight disappointment. A good card but not what everyone was expecting.
The X2 will obviously blow the 295 away but at the moment the 295 is still king of the single card set-up.
The only fair comparison would be to wait for the GTX300 and then compare the benchies.
Don't have a hissy fit just because someone's opinion differs from yours = childish/fanboy.
He does have a point but only the most optimistic expected the 5870 to blow the 295 out of the water most expected near as performance and thats what we have. Ramp up the settings and the 5870 can beat the 295 in a few games so not the big disappointment some are making out. Yes nvidia will beat this when they get gt3xx out the door and so they bloody should it will be a good few months away and if they can't beat this first gen dx11 card then they have major problems.
But they will be releasing about the time ati will be releasing the refresh of this card and i expect them to wait till nvidia do their launch. This card was never going to be a magical upgrade if you had a high end current gen card but most don't and this is a worthwhile upgrade for many so a bit of realism wouldn't hurt would it.
Also squirrel that last post of your s was completely uncalled for and says so much more about you then anyone else in this thread so please go and grow up and then come back with something worth saying and do us all including yourself a favour.