Good Cheap Server - HP Proliant Microserver 4 BAY - OWNERS THREAD

Yep, somewhere in the BIOS (Power Management, or the obvious section) is an option along the lines of "Restore Power on AC Loss" with options Off, On, and Last State.

Off - machine will remain off after a power cut (and power returns)
On - machine will turn back on as soon as power returns
Last state - if machine was off when the power cut, it will stay off; if it was on, it will power up when power returns

So, you're connected to a UPS (right?). Presumably, you're using UPS software (or native battery handling) to shut down the machine. In that case, set the option to "On" and, even if the machine is gracefully shut down (as opposed to just losing power), it should come back when the UPS returns power to its outlets (when, or some time after, mains power returns).

Cheers,
Simon

Windows 7 built in management, it will hibernate at 10% battery left.

What happens when 10% limit is hit, then machine shuts down and the power is restored before the UPS is depleted, the UPS will still be supplying power the whole time so it won't wake up will it?
 
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Windows 7 built in management, it will shut down at 10% battery left.

What happens when 10% limit is hit, then machine shuts down and the power is restored before the UPS is depleted, the UPS will still be supplying power the whole time so it won't wake up will it?

Yeah, I see your problem. As you're using the native management, you have no way to communicate to the UPS that it should shut down (switch off its outlets).

If you were using UPS-specific control software (e.g., PowerChute for APC UPSes), the shutdown procedure would start by sending a command telling the UPS to shut down in two minutes (or whatever).

I'm not sure there's much you can do about this, using the native battery management. Do you have the option of using software from your UPS manufacturer? (Which UPS do you have?)
 
Yeah, I see your problem. As you're using the native management, you have no way to communicate to the UPS that it should shut down (switch off its outlets).

If you were using UPS-specific control software (e.g., PowerChute for APC UPSes), the shutdown procedure would start by sending a command telling the UPS to shut down in two minutes (or whatever).

I'm not sure there's much you can do about this, using the native battery management. Do you have the option of using software from your UPS manufacturer? (Which UPS do you have?)

Yes I can use the software, I just wondered if it would work without it.
 
Do we have a universal decision on which eSata - eSata cable works OK with this server? I heard there weren't many which worked.
 
I'm pretty much on the verge of pulling the trigger on one of these to replace my ReadyNAS NV.

As I 'only' have 4x500Gb drives I wanted to RAID5 them - as they are now, which will mean a SAS RAID Card. To complicate matters further I definitely want to put ESXi on it, so it needs to be on the VMWare 'approved' list.

I've seen the P410 mentioned often, which I hoped I may be able to salvage from a retired server from work, but all the ones I can get are the old style SCSI connections.

They certainly don't come cheap though, so does anyone have a suggestion of an alternative card, or solution?
 
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Now I've got one of these:-

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and I've tried to get it working by plugging it in to the ESATA port on the back of my N40L (via ESATA to SATA cable) and also to the the SATA header on the motherboard, the disc has power because I can hear it spin up but it never sees the disc.

What am I doing wrong, is there something I'm missing, I've looked in the BIOS but there doesn't seem anything relevant there.

HEADRAT
 
I have 2x2TB HDs in mine along with the 250GB drive.

I don't have them running in RAID. I want to move to a RAID5 array. What is the best way of me adding another 2 drives and building an array while keeping the data on the 2 drives I have?

I am hoping there is a solution other than backup the 4GB of info somewhere else.
 
An update on my RAID card woes.
I've found a P400 card w/BBWC, though it has a full height blanking plate - some work with pliers and a file will sort this.

The bigger issue is that it is a wide SAS (SAS32?) connection not the nice mini SAS.
I have wide to wide, and wide to mini cables, but my google-fu has totally failed me and I cannot find what connection is on the disk bays, or if they are hard wired.
Can anyone help answer this?


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Now I've got one of these:-
and I've tried to get it working by plugging it in to the ESATA port on the back of my N40L (via ESATA to SATA cable) and also to the the SATA header on the motherboard, the disc has power because I can hear it spin up but it never sees the disc.
There is a BIOS hack for this, just search this thread for BIOS and you should find it.


I want to move to a RAID5 array. What is the best way of me adding another 2 drives and building an array while keeping the data on the 2 drives I have?
First you need a RAID card capable of supporting RAID5, the onboard one won't - see my question a couple of posts up.
Secondly don't include the 250Gb drive in the RAID5 array. To simplify things I'm going to forget that it even exists.

1. Move all your data to a single 2TB disk (to be called 'original disk')
2. Build new RAID 5 array with other 3 disks.
3. Copy data from original disk to RAID 5 array.
4. Confirm everything has copied and is accessible
5. Confirm again - without the original disk plugged in
6. Add original disk to RAID5 array.
7. Let the array rebuild.
8. Job done!

In all honesty though, if it's only 4Gb of data you are better off just copying it to a USB stick doing the work and copying it back.
 
There is a BIOS hack for this, just search this thread for BIOS and you should find it.

But I shouldn't need for the hacked BIOS for the ESATA to work should I?

I think the ESATA can be a bit "picky" about the cable used, can anybody recommend a ESATA to SATA cable that they know to work?

HEADRAT
 
In all honesty though, if it's only 4Gb of data you are better off just copying it to a USB stick doing the work and copying it back.

Sorry, I meant it is 4TB of data! But I guess your work around will be fine - I just really need to make it a 5 disk array?

Are you suggesting as well installing the OS on that array?
 
Guys

I just received the N40L and have a problem.

The supplied 250GB works fine in the ODD and any of the 4 bays. But the 2 Samsungs F4s I received today aren't detected. Both make a quiet buzzing sound as if trying to spin up.

I've tried with the stock and modded BIOS on default settings.

The only other PC I have to test the HDDs in is my HTPC which I really don't want to start taking apart to test the HDDs.

Is there anything I've missed or are both HDDs DOA?
 
Sorry, I meant it is 4TB of data! But I guess your work around will be fine - I just really need to make it a 5 disk array?

The reason I say to disregard the 250Gb drive is that for RAID the array size is decided by the size of the smallest disk.
So in your case as 250Gb is the smallest drive, only 250Gb of each drive will be used, the rest is wasted. Also bear in mind you lose an entire disk of storage in RAID5 for the parity.

Are you suggesting as well installing the OS on that array?
Yes, or you could use the internal USB port and install the OS to a USB stick.
 
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Guys

I just received the N40L and have a problem.

The supplied 250GB works fine in the ODD and any of the 4 bays. But the 2 Samsungs F4s I received today aren't detected. Both make a quiet buzzing sound as if trying to spin up.

I've tried with the stock and modded BIOS on default settings.

The only other PC I have to test the HDDs in is my HTPC which I really don't want to start taking apart to test the HDDs.

Is there anything I've missed or are both HDDs DOA?

Picked up another two Samsung F4s from a local retailer which worked fine. Unusual for two HDDs to arrive dead. RMA time tomorrow.
 
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