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Question. Do any of you that do say Skull Crushers or the Tricep Press both whilst on the bench get pain in your wrists? I mean I can do them both fine whislt on a weight I can handle easily and it's fairly light, for example 30KG on the bar. But as soon as I hit like 40-50. I can lift it but it's like I struggle because my wrist(s) get real sharp pains from doing it. Obviously due to the weight adding strain but is there a way I can maybe strengthen my wrist or something to take this?
 
SK07 said:
Question. Do any of you that do say Skull Crushers or the Tricep Press both whilst on the bench get pain in your wrists? I mean I can do them both fine whislt on a weight I can handle easily and it's fairly light, for example 30KG on the bar. But as soon as I hit like 40-50. I can lift it but it's like I struggle because my wrist(s) get real sharp pains from doing it. Obviously due to the weight adding strain but is there a way I can maybe strengthen my wrist or something to take this?
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Stop doing them with a straight bar if you're getting pain or you'll regret it later on. Use an EZ-Bar, this can help take the strain off your wrists.

Or better still don't do them at all. Skull crushers are good for stimulating the tri's but they're one of the most dangerous exercises imho. They wrecked my elbows.

Why risk it when you can be doing Close-grip Bench Press, Weighted Dips & V-Bar Pushdowns? The first two are superior and pushdowns are just as good if you ask me and all are safer.
 
Chong Warrior said:
Stop doing them with a straight bar if you're getting pain or you'll regret it later on. Use an EZ-Bar, this can help take the strain off your wrists.

Or better still don't do them at all. Skull crushers are good for stimulating the tri's but they're one of the most dangerous exercises imho. They wrecked my elbows.

Why risk it when you can be doing Close-grip Bench Press, Weighted Dips & V-Bar Pushdowns? The first two are superior and pushdowns are just as good if you ask me and all are safer.
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Ok I'll stop doing them both. It's for my back and tricept day. I already do close grip dips. Weighted dips? I do wide grip dips on another day if that's the same type of thing? v-bar pushdown? I'll have to google that. Yeah and quite personally I hate doing the skull crusher and the tricep press as it's murder doing it on a heavy weight. I'll google this v-bar pushdown and weighted dips.
 
SK07 said:
Ok I'll stop doing them both. It's for my back and tricept day. I already do close grip dips. Weighted dips? I do wide grip dips on another day if that's the same type of thing? v-bar pushdown? I'll have to google that. Yeah and quite personally I hate doing the skull crusher and the tricep press as it's murder doing it on a heavy weight. I'll google this v-bar pushdown and weighted dips.
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Weighted dips are dips with added weight.

V-Bar Pushdowns are done on a cable machine. The one you do lat pulldowns on? Instead of using a straight bar, use a V shaped bar, or alternatively a piece of rope.

What do you mean by tricep press? Overhead?
 
Chong Warrior said:
Weighted dips are dips with added weight.

V-Bar Pushdowns are done on a cable machine. The one you do lat pulldowns on? Instead of using a straight bar, use a V shaped bar, or alternatively a piece of rope.

What do you mean by tricep press? Overhead?
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Lat Pulldown is a seperate machine but you can do it on either that or the cable. Is it either or choice?

Also tricep press as in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Vv3RVjZ_w

That exactly. I can do it but it's this wrist pain. Puts me right off. So I won't bother with them anymore as you say.
 
SK07 said:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Triceps+Pushdown+-+V-Bar+Attachment

Ok I see how to do it, I can do that. So would say 10 rep max at 3 sets be good enough for that? (btw I'd tap that ;) )

Can you give me an example of weighted dips. It looks just like close bench dips but with a weight on your thighs.

Also I did use the EZ bar but it still gives the wrist strain.
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Start off with 15 reps and get used to the exercise and use perfect form. Add weight every week until you can't do 8 reps.

I don't like bench dips, a dipping station is better. Just do dips as usual but hold a DB in between your thighs or if you gym has a dipping belt use that instead.

If it hurts your wrist with an EZ-Bar then definately drop the exercise.
 
Chong Warrior said:
Start off with 15 reps and get used to the exercise and use perfect form. Add weight every week until you can't do 8 reps.

I don't like bench dips, a dipping station is better. Just do dips as usual but hold a DB in between your thighs or if you gym has a dipping belt use that instead.

If it hurts your wrist with an EZ-Bar then definately drop the exercise.
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Ok well I do use the dipping station just not on that same day. I don't find the bench dips too bad. Not sure if they have a dipping belt but damn im not that good at dips yet :p . Alough im better at doing dips than say chin pullups etc. Also what do you recommend more for the triceps the cable machine or the lat pulldown machine? or is it either or?

Also why would the EZ-Bar hurt my wrist? whats the cause and should I do something about it that would help in the long run? No idea why it does it really since I can do everything else fine with no pain in the wrist such as the DB Row, shoulder press, bench press etc.
 
SK07 said:
Question. Do any of you that do say Skull Crushers or the Tricep Press both whilst on the bench get pain in your wrists? I mean I can do them both fine whislt on a weight I can handle easily and it's fairly light, for example 30KG on the bar. But as soon as I hit like 40-50. I can lift it but it's like I struggle because my wrist(s) get real sharp pains from doing it. Obviously due to the weight adding strain but is there a way I can maybe strengthen my wrist or something to take this?
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you can do 50kg tricep presses? nice.
 
I joined a Cannons yesterday and I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a 4-day workout for newbs like me, atm I am a bit overwhelmed and just need a point in the right direction. I've looked at the links given and I see a lot of exercises you can do but I could do with something a bit more specific that i can stick to.

My objective is to bulk up my arms, abs, pecs and legs as well as improve my stamina for running (but I guess I can just do that on the treadmill). I'm slim so I don't think any weight loss is necessary before bulking up.

I'm 17, weigh 60kg and 6'1" if that helps.

Ty in advance.
 
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Morba said:
you can do 50kg tricep presses? nice.
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Yeah but it's absolute killer on the wrists I could do it quite a bit but I'd end up with bad wrist pain for the next few weeks and I don't want that.

Also I can lift pretty good amounts in every area nearly. One thing I can't lift anywhere near as much as that is on the delts. For example the lateral raise is absolute killer and I would struggle on 14KG each arm lol. No doubt because pre-hand I have never done work on them before but trying to build them up now. Same for the rear delt crossover. That's killer.
 
weringo said:
I joined a Cannons yesterday and I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a 4-day workout for newbs like me, atm I am a bit overwhelmed and just need a point in the right direction. I've looked at the links given and I see a lot of exercises you can do but I could do with something a bit more specific that i can stick to.

I'm 17, weigh 60kg and 6'1" if that helps.

Ty in advance.
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In all honesty even though im not the expert like these guys I think they would want to know what your goals are. Fitness, weight loss, bulking, cutting etc. Rather than a vague question of asking for a 4 day workout.
 
SK07 said:
Yeah but it's absolute killer on the wrists I could do it quite a bit but I'd end up with bad wrist pain for the next few weeks and I don't want that.

Also I can lift pretty good amounts in every area nearly. One thing I can't lift anywhere near as much as that is on the delts. For example the lateral raise is absolute killer and I would struggle on 14KG each arm lol. No doubt because pre-hand I have never done work on them before but trying to build them up now. Same for the rear delt crossover. That's killer.
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going by the last few posts from you, you do more weight than me :]
 
Morba said:
going by the last few posts from you, you do more weight than me :]
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lol, well probly not in everything. For dumbell rows I do 35KG 3 sets each arm. 35KG is the max in my gym for dumbells I'd like to go higher eventually but theres nothing I can do. For Squats im comfortable on 85KG total at the moment. Shoulder press with DB's is 20KG each hand which I find gives me a pretty good workout. Incline DB flys I find a lot more harder but that's at 16KG each arm. Basically all of my workout is 3 sets of 10 rep max. Some of my leg workouts such as the toe press is rep max of 20. Bench press is at 80. Find the Bench press real tough. Hammer curl is at 16KG each arm. But can do 18KG each arm but last longer over sets with 16. Im not gonna go higher than that though as I'll just end up swinging. At 16KG each arm I can keep the form perfect.
 
SK07 said:
In all honesty even though im not the expert like these guys I think they would want to know what your goals are. Fitness, weight loss, bulking, cutting etc. Rather than a vague question of asking for a 4 day workout.
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Ok cheers I editted it a bit.
 
Some fitness advisor I booked with at the local gym gave me this plan, and it seems contray to most of what is being shared here.

I asked for building strength, muscle and stamina... am I on the right kind of regime?

I am doing this. All exercises are 20reps, 1 set as advised.

1) 7 minute cardio @ 150bpm
2) Leg pushes
3) 3min interval cardio @ 170bpm (1 min walking rest), 4 intervals

4) Lat pull down
5) Chest press
7) Shoulder press
8) Pectorals (deck)
9) 4min interval cardio @ 160bpm (1 min walking rest), 3 intervals

10) Seated row
11) Biceps (dumbell curl)
12) Triceps (free weight)
13) Front raises
14) Lateral raises
15) 10min cardio @ 140bpm

Thanks,
 
Jamie Edwards said:
Some fitness advisor I booked with at the local gym gave me this plan, and it seems contray to most of what is being shared here.

I asked for building strength, muscle and stamina... am I on the right kind of regime?

I am doing this. All exercises are 20reps, 1 set as advised.

1) 7 minute cardio @ 150bpm
2) Leg pushes
3) 3min interval cardio @ 170bpm (1 min walking rest), 4 intervals

4) Lat pull down
5) Chest press
7) Shoulder press
8) Pectorals (deck)
9) 4min interval cardio @ 160bpm (1 min walking rest), 3 intervals

10) Seated row
11) Biceps (dumbell curl)
12) Triceps (free weight)
13) Front raises
14) Lateral raises
15) 10min cardio @ 140bpm

Thanks,
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that will not build strength or muscle but might help in terms of some stamina, though i doubt it.

terrible routine in all fairness, but then thats to be expected these days. fitness instructors seem to the the purple shirt brigade of the fitness world ;]
 
Jamie Edwards said:
Screw it then, I'll get my reading glasses and start on page one here :)
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good thinking :D

have a good read and post up any questions you have, plenty of people will be able to give you advice (on all aspects of your goals!) :]
 
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