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GPU prices go boom

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by RavenXXX2, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. DragonQ

    Soldato

    Joined: Jun 13, 2009

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    I just feel sorry for those paying current prices when they could just buy an R5 2400G and be done with it, saving tonnes of cash whilst not supporting this nonsense. Is all of this really worth it just to dial up some graphics settings?

    I think the prices of the RX 480 were good at launch ($200 for 4 GB) but they launched pretty much as our currency fell due to Brexit so it wasn't as good for Brits compared to previous generations. Now we're two years on and the price of effectively the same part is about double what it was, even with the improved pound.
     
  2. willhub

    Capodecina

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    Location: Selby/Manchester

    Hard to see how that compared against a GPU, I'm not expecting it's very well.
     
  3. Cooper

    Wise Guy

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    No, I'd like them (& other retailers) to stop being part of the problem by directly selling hundreds/thousands of GPU's to miners in bulk at a time, before they even reach the retail market, then feeding the the rest of us the scraps, at ridiculously inflated prices and then have the temerity to expect us to be grateful at the odd 'deal', when this is a problem of their making!

    Yes, general costs on components have increased, but NOTHING like to the extent that can justify a price of £500 on GPU's that should be HALF that price at this stage in their product life cycle, we are talking about $20-$30 increases on the cost of GDDR5 memory, not hundreds, yet that somehow translates into £100-£200+ on the retail cost!

    It's disingenuous to the core, this is a manufacturer/retailer created crap storm of greed, pure unadulterated greed.
     
  4. ubersonic

    Capodecina

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    Why, they've already sold chips to the card producers, if they can undercut them with reference models and shift even more chips that means even more profit. It's business not friendship club.
     
  5. Rock_n_Roll

    Gangster

    Joined: Aug 1, 2017

    Posts: 349

    I bought an R5 2400G for my second build, mainly for work purposes. That chip got released at the perfect time. It's definitely saved me a few quid.
     
  6. Nexus18

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    This again!

    At the end of the day, I am not going to be paying £300+ for performance that I've already had for the last 4+ years, which I also paid £300 for back then...... :o

    If I am going to upgrade, it has to be at the very least 1070 performance for £300 and nothing more!
     
  7. killem

    Gangster

    Joined: Aug 3, 2010

    Posts: 258

    I was looking to upgrade from my 290X due to the dam heat it puts out when I game. But seeing as the 1060GTX 6gb card retails for £319 at the cheapest and I brought my 290X in 2013 for £360 I found out that in games like the division the new card would not be an Improvement at 1080p. The entry level cost of a PC to play maxed out AAA titles at 1080p Has got stupid compared to consoles prices and I feel if something doesn't give soon in pricing of graphics cards It will signal the death of pc gaming.
     
  8. Concrete

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    Location: Barcelona

    Seems like the MM is getting flooded with mining machines being split, not much seems to be shifting either.

    Combined with the next generation of cards incoming and I think prices will tank over the next couple of months. (hopefully)
     
  9. chroniclard

    Sgarrista

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    Miners still they they are worth loads. But some seem to be selling, the reasonable priced ones.
     
  10. Kaapstad

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    Location: Dalek flagship

    This is why I try and buy from OcUK where possible even if the price on the day is not always the lowest.

    I think OcUK are the most customer orientated retailer and support people like the forum members/gamers.:)
     
  11. Aretak

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    The ones appearing in the MM are all fairly small-time though, using ~5 cards and likely from people weighing up the actual benefits of having five graphics cards sitting there making noise and pumping out heat in the spare bedroom. I suspect that it'll be significantly longer before we see the people who've gone all-in on it deciding to sell up. People like this, for example:

    (That's 130 1080 Tis for the record.)
     
  12. HRL

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    Need a GSync monitor to go with those.
     
  13. String

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    No one's going to offload 130 cards in the MM... that isn't even within the rules.
     
  14. Aretak

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    I don't recall saying that they were. I was responding to the idea that the market is suddenly going to be flooded with used cards because a few people on here were selling their modest mining rigs. From looking at the Twitter of the owner of the setup I posted, I can assure you that he's as bullish about cryptocurrency as ever and won't be selling those cards here or anywhere else any time soon. And said flood of ex-mining cards is only going to come if/when those kind of people sell up, rather than Dan the Daggerman from Dagenham offloading that silly PC in the spare room that the wife keeps moaning about.
     
  15. pete910

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    Why is it against the rules to sell 1080ti's in MM ?

    It's only profiteering that's not allowed
     
  16. Concrete

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    Thats pretty impressive, what brand are they?

    You are right about it being the more casual users, but I see it as the tip of the iceberg. If the next generation cards substantially increase hashrate VS power consumption the miners will upgrade and they will get what they can for their old cards.
     
  17. String

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    The MM is for personal sales of 2nd hand kit, not bulk sales of hundreds of units.
     
  18. MatteH Oxford

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    Already seeing quite a lot of 2nd hand Vegas (especially the 56) sticking around on the bay of E'ing.
     
  19. chaparral

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    Even at £700 per card would be £84,500
    £91,000 if they were £700 each
     
  20. AiiR

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    Is that an actual rule? I wouldn't be opposed to seeing 130 1080ti's if they've been bought legitimately and not on there for profiteering.

    I mean hats off to the people that are honest about mining on the gear they're selling, but no chance I'd be paying what they've paid for it. Call me stingy but I wouldn't touch mining hardware unless the price was very good.