Grammar

mauron · 19 Jun 2007 at 11:58

Any English teachers out there? What's grammatically correct "Sunday 1st July at Wendy's and Derek's or "Sunday 1st July at Wendy and Derek's" It's on an invitation card and there's a bit of a debate going.

V4NT0M · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:12

Not an English teacher, but the second is the way I would write it.

Like; "John, Jack and Judith's" not "John's, Jack's and Judith's"

dirtydog · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:15

mauron said:
Any English teachers out there? What's grammatically correct "Sunday 1st July at Wendy's and Derek's or "Sunday 1st July at Wendy and Derek's" It's on an invitation card and there's a bit of a debate going.

The latter

VIRII · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:36

mauron said:
Any English teachers out there? What's grammatically correct "Sunday 1st July at Wendy's and Derek's or "Sunday 1st July at Wendy and Derek's" It's on an invitation card and there's a bit of a debate going.

I'd prefer to see:

"Sunday 1st July at the home of Wendy and Derek."

elevenseventysix · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:43

The second.

But if you know the full meaning of the sentence - regardless of grammar -then the debate surely is whether grammar is necessary in this instance.

Debate.

iCraig · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:44

What's correct.

People's opinions are important.

or

Peoples' opinions are important.

I've seen them written both like that in a variety of books and articles.

elevenseventysix · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:45

iCraig said:
What's correct.

People's opinions are important.

or

Peoples' opinions are important.

I've seen them written both like that in a variety of books and articles.

The second? Hmmm.

dirtydog · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:46

iCraig said:
What's correct.

People's opinions are important.

or

Peoples' opinions are important.

I've seen them written both like that in a variety of books and articles.

They could each be correct depending on what you are referring to.

The opinions of people = people's

The opinions of peoples = peoples'

iCraig · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:50

dirtydog said:
They could each be correct depending on what you are referring to.

The opinions of people = people's

The opinions of peoples = peoples'

Isn't people referring to multiple persons?

Dirtydog is a people. Doesn't work.

Gilly · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:51

jackgnic said:
...then the debate surely is whether grammar is necessary in this instance.

Are you asking whether grammar is necessary? :confused:

cleanbluesky · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:54

mauron said:
Any English teachers out there? What's grammatically correct "Sunday 1st July at Wendy's and Derek's or "Sunday 1st July at Wendy and Derek's" It's on an invitation card and there's a bit of a debate going.

Depends whether Wendy and Derek own the place as a couple or instead have joint ownership. Next you have to fight over who gets the apostophe

dirtydog · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:55

iCraig said:
Isn't people referring to multiple persons?

Dirtydog is a people. Doesn't work.

Peoples is used to describe groups of people. eg. the peoples of England and France. The French are a people.

iCraig · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:56

dirtydog said:
eg. the peoples of England and France.

Are you sure? That sounds odd to me.

I've always heard it as; "the people of England"

dirtydog · 19 Jun 2007 at 12:58

iCraig said:
Are you sure? That sounds odd to me.

I've always heard it as; "the people of England"

Yes I am sure

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q="the+peoples+of"&btnG=Search&meta=

And yes it would be 'the people of England' as you are only referring to one people - the people of England.

In answer to your earlier question though, most of the time the correct usage would be people's, simply because one would rarely, if ever have the need to write peoples'.

singist · 19 Jun 2007 at 13:00

iCraig said:
What's correct.

People's opinions are important.

or

Peoples' opinions are important.

I've seen them written both like that in a variety of books and articles.

I would say that the first is correct:

I would proffer this as an explanation....

People = plural of person.
Peoples = different nations/races.

iCraig · 19 Jun 2007 at 13:01

dirtydog said:
Yes I am sure

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q="the+peoples+of"&btnG=Search&meta=

And yes it would be 'the people of England' as you are only referring to one people - the people of England.

In answer to your earlier question though, most of the time the correct usage would be people's, simply because one would rarely, if ever have the need to write peoples'.

Ah, gotcha. Cheers.

GeForce · 19 Jun 2007 at 13:17

iCraig said:
What's correct.

People's opinions are important.

or

Peoples' opinions are important.

The former. As for the OP, the latter, or even better what VIRII suggested.

Jon

Lysander · 19 Jun 2007 at 13:28

iCraig said:
What's correct.

People's opinions are important.

or

Peoples' opinions are important.

I've seen them written both like that in a variety of books and articles.

The latter is correct. You're talking about many opinions of many people.

mauron · 19 Jun 2007 at 13:29

This is getting complicated!

dirtydog · 19 Jun 2007 at 13:30

Lysander said:
The latter is correct. You're talking about many opinions of many people.

No it isn't correct :/

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