Man of Honour
Greenlizard0 Weekend Football Thread ** spoilers ** [14th - 18th February 2020]
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Man of Honour
That's an offside that the rules need to scrap, he gained zero advantage from being in that position.
You could say that about dozens of offsides tbf. You have to be behind two opposition players, he wasn't.
Soldato
Offside by an ankle.
I wish VAR didn't exist.
I wish VAR didn't exist.
I'm not in favour of VAR and never have been but posts like this are mad. VAR is there to implement the laws. Offside is offside, whether that's by an ankle or by 2 yards. What you don't like is the offside law, not VAR. The way some people talk about offsides now, it's almost as if we didn't have tight offsides before VAR. The only difference is that it's more accurate and consistent.
They should just go by clear and obvious, yada yada thousandth time we've had this argument. I don't even think they can draw the lines accurately let alone judge from an angle but those in positions of authority seem to have convinced themselves its a "matter of fact" whilst using pretty trivial methods.
Man of Honour
It wasn't directly from a corner, the corner was played short, then the return pass was deemed offside as the corner taker didn't get back onside in time.
Man of Honour
Should've watched the Hull Swansea game instead, Brewster has just made it 4-4 in the 94th minute!
Scratch that, he made it 3-4 and then Hull scored a 4th
Scratch that, he made it 3-4 and then Hull scored a 4th
Brewster made it 4-3
Hull then equalised in the 94th minute.Interesting call given you can’t see exactly when the ball leaves Jota’s foot.... and those lines - are they 100% accurate?
They have multiple camera angles where they can best see when the ball leaves his foot. All the cameras are caliberated so that the lines are accurate. The only issues with the tech is the frame rate of the cameras but at that low speed the margin for error is tiny - for perspective, if the Wolves player was sprinting at top speed and the defender was completely stationary then the margin of error is 15cm. There's no doubt that the Wolves player was offside in this case.
He may be offside by the letter of the law but no advantage was gained, he was running backwards and close to the corner flag. Assuming the technology can be made 100% accurate in the future there needs to be some common sense around the offside rule if it's going to be scrutinised to the nth degree. Offside was brought in to stop goal hanging but it's now ruling out goals that nobody apart from jobs worths in VAR have an issue with. At the very least they should ditch the lines and stand by "clear and obvious error" and give advantage to the striker in marginal cases where there's a toe or knee millimetres offside. I see now why football authorities were so hesitant to bring technology it's going to become too legalistic. Eventually they will end up scrutinising everything from where a throwing is taken to whether the wall is 10 yards, did the keeper come more than 1mm off his line in the penalty etc.
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As I've said many times before, this isn't a var issue. This is an issue people have with the offside law and scrapping or changing how var is used wouldn't change this. We've seen plenty of times where a linesman has flagged an attack offside in the exact same circumstances.
Nothing could possibly be worse than doing this. We'll have all the delays and uncertainties of the current system but all the inconsistent decisions and incorrect decisions as we'd have without technology. Thankfully IFAB are supposed to have point blank refused to allow this. There will be no margin or error or benefit of the doubt with offsides, they just want the process carried out quicker.
The only thing that could happen, which would take years of careful thought, planning and trials, would be to make changes to the offside law. We've seen a lot of shouts for changing offside so that as long as a part of the attacker is behind the defender then he's on but this is very short sighted and will have knock on effects which are likely to make football a lot more negative moving forwards.